Charles Scholz
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Any chance of getting some different Pathfinder shirts? I think the Pathfinder launch poster would make a good shirt. Or maybe the core rulebook cover.
Maybe do a CafePress store with the iconic characters?
Or just put the Pathfinder compatible logo on a shirt. There's an awesome fashion statement.
Seconded!
| gigglestick |
The Fifth Wanderer wrote:Any chance of getting some different Pathfinder shirts? I think the Pathfinder launch poster would make a good shirt. Or maybe the core rulebook cover.
Maybe do a CafePress store with the iconic characters?
Or just put the Pathfinder compatible logo on a shirt. There's an awesome fashion statement.
Seconded!
I agree.
I'd love some PF tshirts with more than just faction symbols. (And What about a Varisian or Shoanti Faction...)
Lisa Stevens
CEO
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We'll work on it for the new year. We've had mixed luck with t-shirts, so it isn't high on our list of products, but we know that y'all would like some, so we will keep hammering at it. To date, the only t-shirts that have sold really well were the goblin ones. In the new year, I will look into restarting the Pathfinder t-shirt line.
So, what kind of shirts would you guys buy?
-Lisa
Fake Healer
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Short sleeved, non-black*, not too cheaply made.
For images, I would like the 'Pathfinder Compatible' logo, the 'Pathfinder Roleplaying Game' logo with maybe a background scene or some type of tribal pattern around it that maybe looks like some of the tats on some of the iconics, and I would love to sport a sihedron pattern with the runes for the 7 sin magics.
Other ideas would be just about any monster that received an overhaul into Pathfinder with a fun phrase like an Ogre-kin face that reads below it "Mammy Graul sended me!" or something...
*I am really sick of black shirts. I would love to be able to choose from a couple of colors like tan, dark green, burgundy, blue, etc...
Callous Jack
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I would like a golem shirt but I didn't like the white t-shirt offered with the huge golem on the front. My taste is more like the ones the Paizo staff got to wear at the Cons. A black shirt with a small logo. The blue stripes on the shoulders and sides are just additional awesomeness!
As for the faction shirts, some of the colors like the Osirion Gold and the Taldor Red were way too strong for me.
| Ernest Mueller |
I would buy more shirts that are not ugly black obviously geek shirts.
The Grey Maiden shirts y'all have are AWESOME and I bought one. Super classy design, not black, can wear it anywhere.
No Pathfinder logos. Avoid all text when possible, in fact, labels are lame. (Example - Horde shirt that says "Horde"=lame; Horde shirt that just has the Horde logo and nothing else=cool.) Big Sihedron runes maybe; make 'em big, art deco, no text. Should look like stuff you might find on shirt.woot or threadless.
Here's some real specific examples of t-shirts that are arguably already gamer themed I think are cool.
Skeletons on magic carpets
Raptor Bandit or anything by them
Devil making snow angel (I can imagine a lot of goblin tees like this)
Save the Murlocs.org shirt (this is a fine line, trying to be funny on a shirt is often a trap, 70% of the WoW shirts are loserriffic, but IMO this one gets it)
Callous Jack
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The Grey Maiden shirts y'all have are AWESOME and I bought one. Super classy design, not black, can wear it anywhere.
That we can agree on. Those are great shirts, possibly the best shirts Paizo has offered. I've been thinking about getting my wife one.
No Pathfinder logos. Avoid all text when possible, in fact, labels are lame. (Example - Horde shirt that says "Horde"=lame; Horde shirt that just has the Horde logo and nothing else=cool.) Big Sihedron runes maybe; make 'em big, art deco, no text. Should look like stuff you might find on shirt.woot or threadless.
There's nothing wrong with black btw, it's just the content that goes on it that usually messes it up. I personally like a well-done t-shirt with a logo whether it's a sports team, a beer I drink (Rogue!) or a band I like. I do agree that the less wordy a shirt is the better.
Here's some real specific examples of t-shirts that are arguably already gamer themed I think are cool.
Skeletons on magic carpets
Raptor Bandit or anything by them
Devil making snow angel (I can imagine a lot of goblin tees like this)
Save the Murlocs.org shirt (this is a fine line, trying to be funny on a shirt is often a trap, 70% of the WoW shirts are loserriffic, but IMO this one gets it)
Hmmm... I'm not liking any of that but to each his own. I guess this is the problem with selling a successful line of shirts, everyone has their own style!
| Ernest Mueller |
Hmmm... I'm not liking any of that but to each his own. I guess this is the problem with selling a successful line of shirts, everyone has their own style!
Yeah, although with CafePressy kinds of technology you don't have to just have one or two, you can offer a batch of different kinds of design and hist most folks, it's not like you have to print a huge number of them.
| Ernest Mueller |
What's weird is that while everyone seems to state how much they hate black shirts, black shirts sell overwhelmingly better than non-black shirts. So, yeah, that puts us in a weird spot.
Well, you have to decide if you're selling to the unwashed masses who lack taste or the cool kids! Since you're doing Pathfinder instead of 4e I figured you're already "all in" on the latter... Zing!
Vic Wertz
Chief Technical Officer
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Ernest Mueller wrote:The Grey Maiden shirts y'all have are AWESOME and I bought one. Super classy design, not black, can wear it anywhere.That we can agree on. Those are great shirts, possibly the best shirts Paizo has offered. I've been thinking about getting my wife one.
We actually had more such cool shirts lined up from the same designer, but these sold poorly enough that we never pulled the trigger. (You'll note that after a year, we still have Grey Maidens shirts left in every size.) We've given the audience many opportunities to show us what they want when it comes to shirts, both via surveys and actual products to put your money down on, and black shirts with big logos and other text are the only ones we ever sell out on.
CafePress is not a great solution, partly because we think many of their shirts are flimsy, and their printing is not what I'd consider long-lasting... but also because I'm pretty sure most of our customers want to ship their shirts along with their other paizo.com merchandise to save on postage.
Deidre Tiriel
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I agree that some of the faction shirts are too bright. I don't like white shirts, and am ok with black.
I mostly would want one design for each adventure path, available in atleast one non-black, not too bright color and black. If a certain module does really awesome, maybe a shirt just for that.
As for Iconics, I'd put several together, such as the DM screen, or parts of. That would make a neat shirt.
That way you don't waste money on a Harsk or Lem that just stays on the shelf. (no offense! they just aren't the most popular characters or interesting-looking)
I don't see the problem with text
I agree that I'd (well, my BF who would be buying) want to get it shipped with subscriptions.
| Lilith |
I'm loving the ideas in this thread.
But since I'm fairly new to pathfinder, perhaps somone can answer a nagging question; What are the names of the iconics?
Barbarian = Amiri
Bard = LemCleric = Kyra
Druid = Lini
Fighter = Valeros
Monk = Sajan
Paladin = Seelah
Ranger = Harsk
Rogue = Merisiel
Sorcerer = Seoni
Wizard = Ezren
Seltyiel is the mutliclassed representative (fighter/conjurer).
Charles Scholz
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Lilith wrote:Huh. He's an evoker in Second Darkness.yoda8myhead wrote:Not according to the back of Pathfinder #26.Lilith wrote:Seltyiel is the mutliclassed representative (fighter/conjurer).Fighter/evoker, no?
I do not remember where, but Joshua commented on one of my previous posts about the stat blocks being different between the APs and Modules.
He said no stat block is set in stone. They are built as needed for each story. Only the first level is the same.
Callous Jack
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We actually had more such cool shirts lined up from the same designer, but these sold poorly enough that we never pulled the trigger. (You'll note that after a year, we still have Grey Maidens shirts left in every size.) We've given the audience many opportunities to show us what they want when it comes to shirts, both via surveys and actual products to put your money down on, and black shirts with big logos and other text are the only ones we ever sell out on.
Well, in the end, I guess you stick with what works. It's too bad that the Grey Maidens shirt didn't do well but maybe the past year's economy had a hand in that.
Charles Scholz
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Vic Wertz wrote:Well, in the end, I guess you stick with what works. It's too bad that the Grey Maidens shirt didn't do well but maybe the past year's economy had a hand in that.We actually had more such cool shirts lined up from the same designer, but these sold poorly enough that we never pulled the trigger. (You'll note that after a year, we still have Grey Maidens shirts left in every size.) We've given the audience many opportunities to show us what they want when it comes to shirts, both via surveys and actual products to put your money down on, and black shirts with big logos and other text are the only ones we ever sell out on.
Shirts are more of a popularity contest. If it has something people like or is interesting, people will buy it. Some people I talked to didn't like the Grey Maidens very much, including myself, so they were not interested in the shirt. The Hellknights, on the other hand, were very well liked. They would have sold very well on a shirt.
Just my 2cp worth.
| Jam412 |
Vic Wertz wrote:Well, in the end, I guess you stick with what works. It's too bad that the Grey Maidens shirt didn't do well but maybe the past year's economy had a hand in that.We actually had more such cool shirts lined up from the same designer, but these sold poorly enough that we never pulled the trigger. (You'll note that after a year, we still have Grey Maidens shirts left in every size.) We've given the audience many opportunities to show us what they want when it comes to shirts, both via surveys and actual products to put your money down on, and black shirts with big logos and other text are the only ones we ever sell out on.
I never bought one because I had no idea who the Grey Maidens were. A quick search showed that they are in CotCT. I'm a low level player in that, so I guess I'll find out about them soon enough.
| Majuba |
I mostly would want one design for each adventure path, available in atleast one non-black, not too bright color and black. If a certain module does really awesome, maybe a shirt just for that.
Shirts related to the APs would be great, and definitely a Sihedron Rune one - I'd love to have that before finishing the AP (starting book 5 in 2 weeks after 2.3 years).
Charles Scholz
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| caith |
I would definitely buy a non-black shirt wrapped with some of the art from the PF Core Rules. Some of those epic battle scenes wrapped from the front, along the right side, and onto the back would be pretty sick. Not sure on the colors but gray or a taupe color would keep the images popping without going black.
| Darkwolf |
Joshua J. Frost wrote:What's weird is that while everyone seems to state how much they hate black shirts, black shirts sell overwhelmingly better than non-black shirts. So, yeah, that puts us in a weird spot.Well, you have to decide if you're selling to the unwashed masses who lack taste or the cool kids! Since you're doing Pathfinder instead of 4e I figured you're already "all in" on the latter... Zing!
I never did care for the 'cool kids'. I like my black shirts and bathe regularly, thank you very much.
I do like my Qadira faction tshirt, even though it's green. I also have they Goblin shirt, which is just fun to wear.
Can't wait to see new designs and hope I have some extra cash when they show up.
Haldir
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I have so many black shirts that I'd be for different colors. When it get hot here (summertime)I usually don't wear black, so my gaming shirts just get left in the closet.
I like the grey maidens shirt but I'm not into the rapper-MMA-somewhat gothic style that the shirts looks to me (go to Walmart & almost all the t-shirts, hats are this style & it's something I don't want to wear).
I will say I do like the idea of sketches, epically the Advanced Player's Guide Playtest ones. Fantastic artwork by WAR.
I could see a wrap around shirt with the iconics on it (like take the GM screen & use that around the chest-sides-back.
I haven't bought a Paizo shirt yet, as either I just don't have the spare cash for a shirt (25 is bit much for me, epically when I normally buy a shirt for 10 to 12 bucks) & really there hasn't been that much that I really want (Gobbies, either the 1st version or 2nd version) right now.