Using different replays on the same scenario...


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Greetings, after reporting my games this weekend to my venture captain, he asked a question as to how i was asking for earned gm credits on the same scenario.

So, I GM'd the scenario [Champion's Chalice, p.1] during PaizoCon <GM Credit #1>. Then yesterday, I used the Survey Boon to earn another GM credit <GM Credit #2>. Lastly, I decided to use a GM star- and recharge it with Expanded Narrative- to earn the latest GM credit <GM Credit #3>.

So, to avoid confusion between myself, my Venture Captain, and possibly everyone else- am i legally able to do what i'm requesting? Namely using two different replay sources to earn credits for the same scenario.

I also ask because future confirmation either way will either inhibit or restrict my replays for the second part in the same fashion [Survey Boon for #2, GM Star for #3].

Thanks much.

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So, to avoid confusion between myself, my Venture Captain, and possibly everyone else- am i legally able to do what i'm requesting? Namely using two different replay sources to earn credits for the same scenario.

No.

survey boon wrote:
This does not allow you to replay an adventure you have already replayed using the replay opportunity granted by GM stars (or similar additional replay rewards), and this does not allow a character to earn credit from the same adventure more than once; you need to use a different PC to replay the adventure.

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As far as I know you can only ever get 5 chronicles from a normal scenario (excluding evergreens etc.):

- Play in standard PFS
- GM in standard PFS
- Play in core mode
- GM in core mode
- GM star/survey boon/free RPG day boon replay (to replicate any one of the four above)

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If I'm not mistaken the Glutton for Punishment boon is the only exception.

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Matt Lewis wrote:

As far as I know you can only ever get 5 chronicles from a normal scenario (excluding evergreens etc.):

- Play in standard PFS
- GM in standard PFS
- Play in core mode
- GM in core mode
- GM star/survey boon/free RPG day boon replay (to replicate any one of the four above)

Because they are separate campaigns you can use a replay once per adventure in each campaign, once in standard and once in core.

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Michael's got the right of it, as far as I'm aware. Replays are tracked separately by campaign.

Within any given campaign, you can get credit three times: player, GM, and replay. All replays are treated as the same source.

Glutton for Punishment just ignores that rule and does its own thing.

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Michael Eshleman wrote:
Matt Lewis wrote:

As far as I know you can only ever get 5 chronicles from a normal scenario (excluding evergreens etc.):

- Play in standard PFS
- GM in standard PFS
- Play in core mode
- GM in core mode
- GM star/survey boon/free RPG day boon replay (to replicate any one of the four above)

Because they are separate campaigns you can use a replay once per adventure in each campaign, once in standard and once in core.

Actually, this post by Michael himself contradicts this.

LINK

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Tallow wrote:
Michael Eshleman wrote:
Matt Lewis wrote:

As far as I know you can only ever get 5 chronicles from a normal scenario (excluding evergreens etc.):

- Play in standard PFS
- GM in standard PFS
- Play in core mode
- GM in core mode
- GM star/survey boon/free RPG day boon replay (to replicate any one of the four above)

Because they are separate campaigns you can use a replay once per adventure in each campaign, once in standard and once in core.

Actually, this post by Michael himself contradicts this.

LINK

it actually looks like Mike is talking about something different in his post. He is talking about using the GM stars... I for example have 4 Stars. I can only replay 4 times (barring other things like Boons and recharging stars). Mike does not address using two of my stars to replay the same scenario - once in CORE and once in Standard. He talks about that fact that the actual number of stars applies only once, and they can be used either in CORE or Standard.

So I could (for example) replay Silent Tide in CORE using my first Star then use my Third Star to replay Silent Tide in Standard.

What I think Mike was saying in that post was that I could not use my First Star to replay Silent Tide in CORE then use THE SAME Star to Replay Seal the Shadow in Standard.

Basically, I don't have two pools of 4 Stars each, one for use in CORE and another for use in Standard.

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Tallow wrote:
Michael Eshleman wrote:
Matt Lewis wrote:

As far as I know you can only ever get 5 chronicles from a normal scenario (excluding evergreens etc.):

- Play in standard PFS
- GM in standard PFS
- Play in core mode
- GM in core mode
- GM star/survey boon/free RPG day boon replay (to replicate any one of the four above)

Because they are separate campaigns you can use a replay once per adventure in each campaign, once in standard and once in core.

Actually, this post by Michael himself contradicts this.

LINK

I believe that just means you don't get two separate pools of stars. You just have one set of stars to use for replays, but you can still replay something once in core and once in standard.

I guess we each took away a different message from Mike Brock's post? :)

EDIT: AKA what nosig said.

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Michael Eshleman wrote:
Tallow wrote:
Michael Eshleman wrote:
Matt Lewis wrote:

As far as I know you can only ever get 5 chronicles from a normal scenario (excluding evergreens etc.):

- Play in standard PFS
- GM in standard PFS
- Play in core mode
- GM in core mode
- GM star/survey boon/free RPG day boon replay (to replicate any one of the four above)

Because they are separate campaigns you can use a replay once per adventure in each campaign, once in standard and once in core.

Actually, this post by Michael himself contradicts this.

LINK

I believe that just means you don't get two separate pools of stars. You just have one set of stars to use for replays, but you can still replay something once in core and once in standard.

I guess we each took away a different message from Mike Brock's post? :)

EDIT: AKA what nosig said.

See, that was my initial understanding as well. However, every other VO in my region disagrees with me. They believe that a replay is a replay, regardless which campaign you use it in, you only get one.

And this was the post that I found that contradicted myself.

My post, that you linked to, that I linked to above says:

LINK

Andrew Christian wrote:
Irish202 wrote:


This is probably an incredibly stupid question/point, but I will post it here to at least get an official reference to it should something arise in the future:
The point has been made that GM'ing a game regardless of Core versus Traditional will apply towards GM star accrual. However, does USING a GM star to replay a scenario remain equivalent between systems?
Example:
A: A 3-star GM uses 3 of his stars to replay three different scenarios as PC that he has already played in the Traditional System. He cannot use those stars to replay any scenarios he has already played in the Core System using the Core System, as they have already been used up.
OR
B: A 3-star GM uses 3 of his stars to replay three different scenarios as a PC that he has already played in the Traditional System. He may then replay 3 scenarios in the Core System that he has already played in the Core System, as those stars were not used in the Core System.
Once again, there is probably an obvious answer here, but I'm asking this now just to get out of the way now. Thanks!
Mike answered this above.
You only get your star replays once.

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The quotes being posted are answering a totally different question. They are answering:

Does a 3-star GM get a total of 3 replays, or 6 (3 in core, 3 in standard).

The question in this thread is whether that 3-star GM can use two of his 3 replays on the same scenario, once in core and once in standard.

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Redelia wrote:

The quotes being posted are answering a totally different question. They are answering:

Does a 3-star GM get a total of 3 replays, or 6 (3 in core, 3 in standard).

The question in this thread is whether that 3-star GM can use two of his 3 replays on the same scenario, once in core and once in standard.

My specific quote was saying exactly what I'm saying it said, as it answered that specific question at the time.

Michael Eshleman used my quote to verify what he said that I linked above. Not sure why he'd have used my quote to verify something differently asked.

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at this point I am just confused...

Can a 3-star GM can use two of his 3 replays on replaying the same scenario twice, once in core and once in standard?

I think he can. but heck, I'm just a confused mook here, what do I know?

Grand Lodge 3/5

Core is recorded separately. CORE =/= PFS But Stars are universal. :p

Okay, so general consensus is- only one Replay as Player or as GM allowed per scenario.
So, in general- you could only get FOUR total credits per scenario: Player, Player Replay, GM credit, GM Star-Credit.

Okay, thought there was a loophole. m'kay. QAPC.

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No, that is still not right.

Per campaign (Standard and Core) you get to:
1. Play the scenario once.
2. Take credit for GMing once.
3. Take credit for replay once (either as a player or as a GM credit).

You get one set of GM star replays that can be used in either standard or Core, mixed and matched as you see fit.

With Expanded Narrative you can "recharge" those stars, and you may have sources of additional replays (such as the survey boon) allowing additional replays, but still no more than 3 chronicles for a single scenario in each campaign.

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