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Am i crazy or is there a massive catch 22 in the Merciful Healer Archetype?
Ultimate Combat PG. 41
Last line under: Merciful Healing (Su):
"Feats and Abilities that affect a Paladin's Mercy Also may affect this ability."I assume they mean feats like
Extra Mercy
Greater Mercy
Ultimate Mercybut how can a Merciful healer qualify to even take these feats without Lay on Hands?
So in order to take advantage of this part of the Archetype, you have to dip 2 levels of paladin?
Or was it just forgotten that Merciful healers get access to these feats? I have seen nothing in the FAQ...
Was this an oversight? Is it supposed to be a Paladin Archetype? Any insight would be great, because it appears to be very broken as written...
Likely they meant that channel energy would replace the lay on hands prerequisite, but I agree that it could have been worded better.
Definitely agree that this needs an FAQ. Have had people turn away from playing this class for the reason that they may or may not be allowed to use like half their feats.
Mmmh... You mean there's GM ruling against the feats being accessible ? O_o
The Archetype is not that great with the feats, without it's not even playable... :/
Some GM's do some don't. It appears there is a lot of confusion as to what appears to be intended, verses what is actually written. Hence the confusion here.
It appears as though the Archetype intended to use channel energy as lay on hands for the prereq for the Mercy feats.
However the feats themselves require a class ability exclusive to Paladins (Lay on Hands). Yet this is not a paladin Archetype....
Oh I agree that the archetype is very badly written... I have faq'ed :p
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My RAI take on this would be they are tagging on mercies to the channel energy and thus anything that would effect mercies capabilities on lay on hands would effect the channel energy of the Merciful Healer based on "Feats and effects that affect a paladin’s mercy also affect this ability." part of Merciful healing. Effectively: Lay Hands Req replaced by Channel Energy for the relevant feats.
My RAW take on it would be yes you would still require the prerequisites for the feats as it doesn't not state it bypasses or replaces them. Meaning you would need to dip into Paladin.
Either way it needs looking at so we have a firm ruling on what is does and what it requires.
Hmm! Can't even use the freeboter FAQ as a guideline as the Wild Stalker doesn't have a comparable ability.
Keep in mind you could take believers hands which lets you meet the requirement.
Though considering that came out years later it probably wasn't intended.
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I wonder how they rate importance of issues for FAQ... Curious if this will even have a chance to get FAQ'd. I cant imagine how busy they are...
Largely by number of FAQ flags. Not sure how many an issue needs, but I think this topic is getting there.
It helps if the question is one that's easy to answer - and this one's pretty simple and limited in scope, which increases the chances that it will be worth their time.
I wonder how they rate importance of issues for FAQ... Curious if this will even have a chance to get FAQ'd. I cant imagine how busy they are...Largely by number of FAQ flags. Not sure how many an issue needs, but I think this topic is getting there.
It helps if the question is one that's easy to answer - and this one's pretty simple and limited in scope, which increases the chances that it will be worth their time.
Numbers matter the higher the hits the higher on the list. It is also affected by how easy the question might be to answer. In this case I don't see the answer being too hard so that helps it.
Meh, duck rule applies.