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So umm, Erylium managed to get away(due to hijinxs involving players being like "Let's wait first to see what she does") and get away with Scribbler's soul and stuff. I was thinking of bringing her back as Vrock for sixth book and now that we have started the sixth book... Well, I have bit of problem since I'm not sure how I would convert her stats to vrock and not sure how many witch levels she needs to be added on her to make her right cr for rematch fight.
Another problem being that players are totally expecting her to bring Nualia back from death as demon along with her to rematch and I figured out "Well, I guess she could pull strings and it would be cool rematch", but... Well, Nualia I built for second match with players(she got sent to prison and later tried to escape from Hells(where she had learned to turn herself into half-fiend from demonologists there)) ended rather anti climactic so I don't really trust myself with building statblocks anymore. Besides, not sure how Divine Scion levels increase vrock's cr and I have same problem with not having clue how to change her stats if she transforms into vrock.. Had kind of an idea that she would be even crazier and still missing an arm after being brought back as sort of failure for failing twice, but no clue how to do my idea and still have it be challenging.
So umm, is this right thread for these sorts of questions or should I move this to advice section? I basically need help on how to rebuild Erylium as witch and Nualia as cleric4/fighter2/divine scion? for apporiate cr encounter in final book.
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This is the right place for this thread, though you could also ask for general help in the Advice section of the boards.
The situation is pretty out there though.
I wouldn't use a Vrock for the same reason that the Glabrezu at the beginning of book 5 won't summon them - Vrocks are associated with Pazuzu, a rival of Lamashtu. Perhaps a Succubus? Of course this is lower CR meaning you need more class levels but she might be easier to recognize as Nualia. Cleric 4/Fighter 2/Divine Scion 7 might work.
Don't forget that a monster's stats get adjusted when they take class levels. Make sure she has some minions with her too.
For Erylium, just make her as high a level of witch as the characters are.
My recommendation would be to get a pdf character sheet that does the math for you, like THIS ONE. Plug the stats for the demon you are using and then add in the class levels.
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While Vrocks are associated with Pazuzu, it doesn't mean that none of Vrocks work for Lamashtu. Erylium & Nualia are both associated with sin of Wrath rather much so Vrock is logical progression for them. Succubus wouldn't really make sense at least for Nualia since her sense of beauty wouldn't fit for succubus.
Tsuto was praying that she might become a succubus though. Maybe his prayers were answered?
There is also the Kalavakus, which is decently powerful (more than a vrock) but is medium sized. Nualia wouldn't need as many class levels that way.
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But Nulia is all about how beauty is disgusting and wants to become monstrous, her becoming succubus wouldn't make sense for her desires .-.
But yeah, since I use exp, my biggest problem is(along with figuring out stats and how to build statblock that won't be anti climactic) figuring out what would their CR be :' D Since I find hard time grasping how to calculate monsters with class levels and their cr..