Does someone knows how to answer these 2 questions? I tried to run it by JJ but he redirected me to here.
If I selected Versatile Performance: Oratory, and I have the ability to take 10 in Perform, can I take 10 when I use Perform (Oratory) in place of Diplomacy and Sense Motive?
If so, and I have the Magnum Opus feat when I take 10 in these skills, can I use the take 15 option the feat grants?
Thanks and sorry about my english, it's not my first language.
Versatile Performance (Ex): At 2nd level, a bard can choose one type of Perform skill. He can use his bonus in that skill in place of his bonus in associated skills. When substituting in this way, the bard uses his total Perform skill bonus, including class skill bonus, in place of its associated skill's bonus, whether or not he has ranks in that skill or if it is a class skill. At 6th level, and every 4 levels thereafter, the bard can select an additional type of Perform to substitute.
The important part to note here is that you are using your bonus in that skill instead of the bonus of the skill you're actually using. So anything that enhances your skill bonus with Perform checks will help, but in the end, you are still making a Diplomacy check, a Sense Motive check, or any other skill your versatile performance is substituting in for. Therefore, abilities to take 10 that apply to Perform checks only don't apply, nor does the ability to take 15 instead.
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But look at that example, it's an old answer, and it was what sparked my curiosity.
Hi James,
If a Bard is using a Perform (Oratory) bonus to make a Diplomacy check, and has an ability that lets him re-roll Diplomacy checks, can he use it? What about if he has an ability that lets him re-roll Perform checks? In other words, is he making a 'perform check' or a 'diplomacy check'?
Rules as written, no, he can't.
Rules as they SHOULD have been written, yes he can. It's best to treat a versatile performance check as the skill in question AND as the perform skill in question; let the bard make the better choice for the result at the time. It's supposed to be versatile, after all.
By the logic of this, you use your Perform to substitute everything, you can't use your ability to re-roll a diplomacy check, but you could re-roll a Perform check if you had that option.