Is there a way for a Summoner to gain access to the "Cure" spells without multiclassing? I ask because you're most likely to take "Spell Focus (Conjuration)" so you might as well get everything you can out of it.
I just jumped to mage tattoo, I'm assuming that is what was meant as, yah, spell focus on a summoner is pointless and does nothing for cure.
Spell Focus Conjuration on a Summoner is a stepping stone to the Augment Summoning Feat which I believe an FAQ has stated DOES work with the Summoner's Summon Monster SLA.
Well good to know. Just wanted to try and squeeze out a little more usefulness outta Spell Focus. Thanks.
The only use you'll get out of Spell Focus (Conjuration) is if you take the Pit line of spells. Apart from that, it's a pure tax feat. Luckily, you don't really need many feats to function, anyway.
That said, you don't need to take Augment Summoning on a Summoner, going Eidolon centered is totally possible, too.
You could always use the rules for spell research, if they are allowed.
Ring of spell knowledge cast from the bard list should work
Agathion type eidolons get Paladin-style healing.
Is there a way for a Summoner to gain access to the "Cure" spells without multiclassing? I ask because you're most likely to take "Spell Focus (Conjuration)" so you might as well get everything you can out of it.
The feat in mind does absolutely nothing for Cure spells, unless you've got some notion about whacking undead with them. The feat has no effect for cure spells used in their normal mode.
Otherwise, the go to spell for Summoners is Infernal Healing.
There ARE useful battle magics in the Conjuration school for Summoner's... the Pit family of spells comes to mind.
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There is the Spirit Summoner archetype from the Advanced Class Guide. It doesn't get the Cure spells, but selecting the Life spirit gives him the ability to channel energy and eventually grants access to detect undead, lesser restoration, neuturalize poison, restoration, breath of life, and heal. At 6th level he can select the Healing hex, which lets him cast the equivalent of Cure Moderate Wounds on each ally 1x/day.
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Combine that with Samsaran's Mystic Past Life and nabbing spells of the Witch list(the cure spells, mostly) and you can be a decent cleric.
not true so many people forget about raging barbarians and superstision spell focus would increase the dc for the raging barbarian to resist the cure spellThe feat has no effect for cure spells used in their normal mode.
If the raging Barbarian needs a cure spell to survive, he has failed at being a Barbarian and deserves to die.
Combine that with Samsaran's Mystic Past Life and nabbing spells of the Witch list(the cure spells, mostly) and you can be a decent cleric.
In what universe have cure spells anything to do with being "a decent cleric"?
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As mentioned before, a Bralani Azata can cast Cure Serious twice per day. It's so-so at Summon Monster 5, but at SM6 you can Superior Summons to get 1d3+1 of them. With anaverage healing output of 9d6+18 per turn, it's some of the best in-combat healing you can get. Especially since it has an "echo" effect as they can heal a second time while you cast some other spell.
Combine that with Samsaran's Mystic Past Life and nabbing spells of the Witch list(the cure spells, mostly) and you can be a decent cleric.In what universe have cure spells anything to do with being "a decent cleric"?
Probably just me thinking back to my idea for a priest of a (mostly) dead god being a Summoner.
I wouldn't enjoy that game. Or that person's company.
If you don't understand humor, you won't enjoy my games or my company, indeed.
Probably just me thinking back to my idea for a priest of a (mostly) dead god being a Summoner.
That does kinda the opposite of answering my question. Why does a priest (or cleric) need cure spells? When emergency healing is already covered, what do cure spells add? Regular Summoners can already use healing wands for outfight healing.
is emergency healing alredy covered tho?
Yes, because we were talking about a Spirit Summoner with Life spirit, who has full progression Channel Energy.