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Andy Serkis on Supreme Leader Snoke
Some people absorb unspeakable pain, then vow to spend the rest of their lives working and fighting to make sure no one else has to suffer as they did. Others endure the same agony but deal with it by magnifying that pain — and blasting it back upon the world.
Supreme Leader Snoke is one of the latter.
The enigmatic ruler of the First Order finally emerges from the darkness in Star Wars: The Last Jedi, and actor Andy Serkis is revealing a little more about the villain’s origin and creation.
“This time you get to see him, as in his real presence,” says Serkis, who plays the towering Snoke via performance capture. “In the previous movie we saw him as this huge hologram and tele-presence, and you get to meet him in the flesh this time.”
Serkis describes a cruel master, a 9-foot-tall alien humanoid who disparages and dominates his two lieutenants: Kylo Ren (played by Adam Driver) and General Hux (Domhnall Gleeson.) He’s a predator who identifies weakness and exploits it, drawing the young and promising to his side with promises of power, then using and discarding his protégés when they are no longer of use.
He is seen here in hologram form in The Last Jedi, looking very Wizard of Oz as he bellows at Hux over some unspecified failure or disappointment. Serkis says much of that unhappiness will be directed at the former Ben Solo, however.
“His training of Kylo Ren is not yielding what he wants,” Serkis says. “Therefore his anger towards Kylo Ren is intensified because he can’t bear weakness in others. Part of the manipulation is goading him with Hux and playing them off against each other.”
Maybe the effect of that pairing has worn off, however. Snoke may need to start goading Kylo Ren with another disciple. (Watch yourself, Rey.)
Snoke has an abiding rage toward the Galactic Republic, which he devastated in The Force Awakens by annihilating its capital with a blast from Starkiller Base. And now that anger has shifted toward the wounded Republic’s military force — the Resistance.
“The thing about Snoke is that he is extremely strong with the Force, the dark side of the Force. He’s terribly powerful, of course. But he is also a very vulnerable and wounded character,” Serkis says. “He has suffered and he has suffered injury. The way that his malevolence comes out is in reaction to that. His hatred of the Resistance is fueled by what’s happened to him personally.”
The Last Jedi will reveal that the First Order is far stronger than anyone else in the galaxy realized. “Despite the fact that the Starkiller Base has been destroyed and the Resistance has been putting up a fight, we will discover that the First Order has limitless resources in this one,” Serkis says.
Exactly how Snoke suffered his deformity hasn’t yet been revealed, but we will learn more about it in this installment. At least, a little more.
“Similar to with Rey’s parentage, Snoke is here to serve a function in the story,” writer-director Rian Johnson says. “And, you know, a story is not a Wikipedia page.”
That means the film may not fill in all the blanks for the hardcore Snoke theorists.
“For example, in the original trilogy, we didn’t know anything about the Emperor except exactly what we needed to know, which is what Luke knew about him, that he’s the evil guy behind Vader,” Johnson says. “But then in the prequels, you knew everything about Palpatine because that his rise to power was the story. We’ll learn exactly as much about Snoke as we need to. But the really exciting for me is we will see more of him, and Andy Serkis will get to do much more in this film than he did in the last one, and that guy is just a force of nature.”
Since Snoke only appeared as a hologram in The Force Awakens, the performance by Serkis was mainly in the villain’s face (what’s left of it). Now that we’ll be in his actual presence, we get the full breadth of his movement — and his damage.
“You witness his physicality,” Serkis says. “His body is kind of twisted up like a corkscrew, and so he has limited movement. His aggression and his anger is contained and restricted by that physicality.”
After playing Gollum in The Lord of the Rings films, Serkis is used to knotting his body for a performance, or adjusting to a simian gait to play Caesar in the Planet of the Apes films. But for Snoke, he adds one piece of restraint to his own body.
“The only thing I did use was across his jaw,” Serkis says. “His jaw is completely mangled and the left side of his face is mauled. So I had a way of taping down the lefthand side of my mouth to restrict the lip movement on that side.”
Snoke’s shattered skull and open jaw were also inspired by something real from our own world. “His deformity is very much based on injuries from the First World War, from the trenches,” Serkis says.
In that conflict, modern war machines ripped and gnarled human bodies like never before, but lifesaving contemporary medicine ensured the survival of men who otherwise would have died on the battlefield. They lived on carrying damage previously seen only on corpses.
Perhaps because he does suffer so much, Snoke also makes a point to indulge in the comfort and riches that power bestows. Unlike Emperor Palpatine, who was draped in the relatively humble black robe of a Sith monk, Snoke wraps himself in the kind of shimmering gold usually seen in the palaces of dictators or Las Vegas entertainers.
Revenge is only part of his motivation; greed is another.
“Oh, absolutely. He’s slightly oligarch,” Serkis says. “You know, he’s not afraid of showing his fineries. There is a luxury that’s native to him.”
You can see it in his throne room, and his scarlet-armored Praetorian Guard. “The way that his court is presented, he’s very totalitarian in that way and flamboyant,” Serkis says. “He enjoys that theatricality, I think.”
Why the First Order Officer Corps wear black pants.
Master Luke Skywalker Figure, the compass from Battlefront II is included.
Bonus Thrawn Alliances Cover

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~laughter~ Another one for the baron.
Caught the first one a bit ago but the second one is new, thanks for Sharing.
This is for you, dear Tin Dragon. A re-enactment of the Iconic poster, from a simpler time.

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In a press briefing, Andy Serkis is asked if Supreme Leader Snoke is more powerful than our beloved Imperial Majesty, The Emperor Palpatine.
Without pause, Serkis says he is.
’Snoke is the Dark End of The Force.’
Which proves Serkis is traitorous leech, little better than a Rebel scum propagandist.
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My take away from this is full confirmation that Snoke is not a Sith, but a Dark Side user of another sort.

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Black Dougal wrote:stupid question, at the 18 second mark of the clip, are those extra large B-wings or some kind of new light frigate?Not a silly question at all.
I just got my Fantasy Flight Resistance Heavy Bomber model and I love it. It definitely looks like takes its inspiration from the B Wing and is a fantastic scupt.

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Everything you need to know before seeing The Last Jedi.
The major factions in the Galaxy are the New Republic, the First Order, and the Resistance.
The New Republic, which was the Galaxy’s governing body is reeling after the destruction of Hosnian Prime and the four other worlds of the Hosnian System from the assault of Starkiller Base. The Chancellor and the greater majority of the Senate died in the attack. Certain key Senators sympathetic to the First Order and pushing for the restoration of The Empire were off system at the time of the attack.
The First Order has lost Starkiller Base, but this had not been their capital. In fact, the Supremacy, may very well be their mobile capital. Literally a Capital ship.
The Resistance, seems to have lost the least as of the end of the last movie, but their hidden base on D’Qar was revealed. They may be fighting a withdrawal action in this movie and head to the former Rebellion era base on Crait to regroup and resupply.
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Cantonica, the planet where the casino city of Canto Bight is located, boasts the largest artificially made ocean in the Galaxy.
The chinar tree was a species of sun-sensitive tree from Alderaan that had a distinctive scent of spice and fire, Canto Bight paid a ransom for the last seeds of the trees and they flourish on Cantonica long after the demise of their home world.
To further show off their extravagant opulence and luxury, Canto Bight uses sentient beings in roles normally carried out by droids, which include laborers and servants.
Gamblers who can not pay off their losses become indentured servants, barley a step above slavery.
The police force on Canto Bight is described as ‘better than most’ but still has corrupt members among their ranks.
Pazaak, a game from the original Knights of the Old Republic game is played on Canto Bight.
Zinbiddle, which was played on the Kuari Princess, as well as Zero G massages, are all from West End Games, and are Canon once again.
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Jedi Master Luke Skywalker has been studying The Force, both Jedi and Sith teachings, as well as many different Force mysticism and beliefs.
(Speculation) I really think he will be the last of the Jedi Order. He means to forge a new path with Rey, one where there is Balance in The Force.
Luke has taken a compass and two saplings from a tree that was in the Jedi temple. The significance of both may be given during the movie.
Captain Phasma is a hardened killer, blindly loyal to herself first and foremost. She will do anything to survive and even advance her station. This is why she readily provides the shield codes in The Force Awakens. Look to see her more threatening in this movie.
Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo knew Princess Leia during her time in The Imperial Senate. Even then she seemed quite peculiar, she does not fear death, and is willing to sacrifice lives for what she feels is the greater good.
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I wonder if we will see a Lightsaber crystal bled in this movie.
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Patton Oswalt who I’m (un)lucky enough to be friendly with has been trolling me because he has seen the film, I get to see it Tuesday, and something he said may just have been the biggest spoiler for me.
SPOILER
Possibly Snoke is a fallen member of The Whills.

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What are the crystal kitties called?
Vulptices (singular: Vulptex) are a species of fox-like creatures that live within burrows and tunnels beneath the surface of the salt-covered mineral planet of Crait. They are distinguished by their white, crystalline fur.
A group of Vulptices are called a Skulk (I just made this up but I’ll bet that it becomes Canon soon)
Yes, you may have one as a familiar.

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Everything you need to know before seeing The Last Jedi.
The New Republic, which was the Galaxy’s governing body is reeling after the destruction of Hosnian Prime and the four other worlds of the Hosnian System from the assault of Starkiller Base. The Chancellor and the greater majority of the Senate died in the attack. Certain key Senators sympathetic to the First Order and pushing for the restoration of The Empire were off system at the time of the attack.
So the designated survivor and new Chancellor of the Republic was the Deputy minister of Sanitation? Are there rumours Keifer Sutherland was in this film?

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Here in my NO spoiler review of The Last Jedi
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Darkness Rises, and Light to Meet It.
I love this movie.
I LOVE this movie.
This is the movie we were waiting to see. Where The Force Awakens had the monumental task of winning back many disheartened fans of the franchise, and in doing so there were clear signs that the film followed the winning template of A New Hope.
While mindful of the films that came before it, The Last Jedi is not a remake of any of them.
Rian Johnson, fully aware that is a Saga film, is no longer chained to the resentment of the ghosts of the Prequel Trilogy and builds upon the love we have of the Original Trilogy then goes into bold new path, one that blows the doors wide open on the Mythology of the Star Wars Saga. He does a sublime job as a film maker and I’m even more excited for his future Trilogy. I am a fan of this man.
He will give fans and theory crafters much to debate about. And what’s a Star Wars film without all the fun lively conjecture, everyone who updates Wookipeedia will be working overtime.
I can’t go over plot points so I’ll discuss what I can a little further.
I like how this movie deals with the elements left over from the last movie with regards to the Resistance and the First Order.
We learn enough of the main characters as we need to know for this movie, and a lot of the wild theories circulating can now be dismissed.
I loved Mark Hamill in this film. Have you ever wondered ‘what if the actors who played in the Prequels somehow reprised their roles for the Original Trilogy?’ If Ewan McGregor played Obi-Wan 30 years later for Episode IV. Well we get our version of this, Hamill is brilliant as the elder Luke. I like Luke more in this film than the complaining farm boy, or unsure Jedi in training of the originals. Kudos to Mark Hamill for his performance.
Carrie Fisher, seeing her on screen brought tears to my eyes, her performance was better than her work on The Force Awakens, General Leia’s role is expanded, and it was lovely to see her on the big screen where she belongs. We love you Carrie.
The pairings of the other actors work well.
Daisy Ridley crushes in this movie. Rey and Kylo Ren get a Hutt’s share of the movie as expected, this film is very much about their journey.
Since I am a loyal to His Imperial Majesty The Emperor Palpatine, I have no great love for this pretender Snoke, but even he had great scenes and moved the plot forward.
Finn and Rose are a great combo as well, Finn still serves as a comedic pause to give us a break from the more serious bits of the film, I am surprised how much I like the Rose character.
I do like General Hux, and he too gets some key moments in the film.
Of the heroes, I think Poe was under utilized, and I wish there was more of Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo, Laura Dern does a terrific job. Reading her backstory from the novel helped flesh out the character.
There are of course new ships and vehicles, I look forward to seeing many of them in our table top and video games someday.
I really like seeing the interiors of the ships in certain scenes, when I rewatch the movie I plan to pay closer attention now that I don’t have to devote perception on the plot as much.
There are some CRAZY combat sequences and fights scenes. The third act of the film is worth the price of admission.
There are shout outs to the original films, even the Prequels. The music cues are all there, and are as impressive as I remember.
Was this a film on the level of The Empire Strikes Back? No you Bantha Podo. Name me a film that is. Was it on the level of A New Hope? Damn, it’s close.
This was an intelligent film. In many was this was a Dark and an adult themed film. I’m surprised to say there were egalitarian themes in the movie. But above all, this was a Star Wars movie. And thankfully friends, we live in the days where that comment is becoming a compliment once again.

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Howdy folks,
I know we're all really excited about Star Wars (I'm going tomorrow night to see it in IMAX!) and since some folks have seen early releases, I just wanted to remind everyone that not everyone will be seeing it on opening night, or even opening weekend. So lets avoid being Sith and posting spoilers. I'm excited to hear what everyone thinks about the movie and I think many others are too, but we can do that in a way that doesn't spoil the movie for anyone else (the Baron's post is an excellent example of how to do this).

GM Niles |
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Howdy folks,
I know we're all really excited about Star Wars (I'm going tomorrow night to see it in IMAX!) and since some folks have seen early releases, I just wanted to remind everyone that not everyone will be seeing it on opening night, or even opening weekend. So lets avoid being Sith and posting spoilers. I'm excited to hear what everyone thinks about the movie and I think many others are too, but we can do that in a way that doesn't spoil the movie for anyone else (the Baron's post is an excellent example of how to do this).
Yes please.

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Howdy folks,
I know we're all really excited about Star Wars (I'm going tomorrow night to see it in IMAX!) and since some folks have seen early releases, I just wanted to remind everyone that not everyone will be seeing it on opening night, or even opening weekend. So lets avoid being Sith and posting spoilers. I'm excited to hear what everyone thinks about the movie and I think many others are too, but we can do that in a way that doesn't spoil the movie for anyone else (the Baron's post is an excellent example of how to do this).
Don't we have spoiler tags exactly for such circumstances?

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How are people seeing it already?
I am the very model of a modern Loyal Imperial Advisor.
I've information sectreted by Bothan’s behind a Rancor’s incisor.
I know the Sith Lords Canonical, and Clone Wars historical.
Planetary Systems Ahch-To to Yavin, in order Astrophysical.
I'm very well acquainted, with matters Separtist and Senatorial.
I understand Lightspeed Interdiction, Parsec and Quadratical.
Asked about Midichlorian count I am teeming with a lot o' news.
Pressed to perform I dare say I can even make a dour Hutt amuse.
I am the very model of a modern Loyal Imperial Advisor.