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But how will i FAQ it then...


Saldiven wrote:
lemeres wrote:
It should be noted- th 70 pounds of milk is with modern figures.

Yup, and these modern figures include the effect of the cattle being pumped with hormones to encourage milk production.

According to USDA data, organic cattle (which would be closer to medieval technology) produce roughly 70% the milk that standard industrial dairy farms produce, on a per cow basis.

And again- that is with better support structures when a medieval farmer in terms of grazing, feed, and general care, and they probably don't have well bred masterwork cattle.

So I would expect it to edge more towards 50% on a good day. On a bad day, the farmers might not get milk at all, and ahve to consider sending the cow to be sold at market (...and the family's son comes back with some 'magical beans'...)


Saldiven wrote:
lemeres wrote:
It should be noted- th 70 pounds of milk is with modern figures.

Yup, and these modern figures include the effect of the cattle being pumped with hormones to encourage milk production.

According to USDA data, organic cattle (which would be closer to medieval technology) produce roughly 70% the milk that standard industrial dairy farms produce, on a per cow basis.

That still involves modern cow being product of very efficient breeding and feeding of the last two hundred years.

"In 1944, there were 25.6 million cows in the United States, while today there are only 9.3 million cows in the U.S. that produce 59% more milk than in 1944. Cows have increased in production so significantly, that it has allowed there to be a reduction of animals to support the milk needs of the U.S."

A year 1944 cow produced on average 20% of milk of a 20xx cow. Earlier increases of productivity were probably much lower.

The numbers I have found elsewhere suggest that average pre-modern cow produced 40 gallons of milk per year on grazing, and potentially up to 200 gallons of milk per year when their diet was supplemented with grain.


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Kobold Cleaver wrote:

Imagine an archmage who just travels from town to town, offering farmers small fortunes in exchange for their cows. Slowly cornering the cow market, crafting infinite demiplanes for them to roam and be milked.

This should be the next Pathfinder AP.

Stop making me laugh. Ow, the back of my face!


The smurf you talking about?


Wow, that is a very distracting icon


Kobold Cleaver wrote:

Um, hi, former Runescape player here. That's literally impossible. "Bones" come from essentially every creature in the game. When you take multiple servers into account, (Runescape has over a hundred) we're talking about hundreds of thousands, millions of NPCs that you'd have to spawncamp to "control every source of bones". You'd have to camp every one of the hundreds of instances of chickens on a farm, every one of the hundreds of instances of Goblin Warrior trotting around Draynor Village. Every Man, every Woman, every Gnome riding a Terrorbird safespotting a Khazard Guard. We're talking one of the most important and common resources in the game. It might have been possible in Runescape Classic, but even then, you'd be more likely to have luck with a more limited resource. Are you sure you aren't thinking of Big Bones? Or maybe Monkey Bones?

...

oh god

this game was so dumb

No really this is true.

Bones were (are?) the only way to level your prayer skill. Video games m i rite?

Anyway back in the day player killers would minmax their prayer + attack and run around the wilderness using pray to make them damage immune because their total combat level was 25 but their HP and damage didn't make sense in the normal math of how they protected lower level characters from higher ones.

But in order to get bones you have to kill stuff and killing stuff raise your level ruining your min max. So really rich players would buy bones from bone farmers. bones would actually work out to be better to farm than most other drops because of this player created currency.

How do I know all this? I didn't get 99 fire making for nothing kid! Show some respect.


If you really want to mesh real world info into this, keep in mind that adult lactose intolerance is the more common trait among humanity. Only a few select groups retain the ability to digest milk without difficulty. If the same ratios are applicable to fantasy race populations, milk would be unlikely to be terribly profitable in impractically large volume.


Jader7777 wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:

Um, hi, former Runescape player here. That's literally impossible. "Bones" come from essentially every creature in the game. When you take multiple servers into account, (Runescape has over a hundred) we're talking about hundreds of thousands, millions of NPCs that you'd have to spawncamp to "control every source of bones". You'd have to camp every one of the hundreds of instances of chickens on a farm, every one of the hundreds of instances of Goblin Warrior trotting around Draynor Village. Every Man, every Woman, every Gnome riding a Terrorbird safespotting a Khazard Guard. We're talking one of the most important and common resources in the game. It might have been possible in Runescape Classic, but even then, you'd be more likely to have luck with a more limited resource. Are you sure you aren't thinking of Big Bones? Or maybe Monkey Bones?

...

oh god

this game was so dumb

No really this is true.

Bones were (are?) the only way to level your prayer skill. Video games m i rite?

Anyway back in the day player killers would minmax their prayer + attack and run around the wilderness using pray to make them damage immune because their total combat level was 25 but their HP and damage didn't make sense in the normal math of how they protected lower level characters from higher ones.

But in order to get bones you have to kill stuff and killing stuff raise your level ruining your min max. So really rich players would buy bones from bone farmers. bones would actually work out to be better to farm than most other drops because of this player created currency.

How do I know all this? I didn't get 99 fre making for nothing kid! Show some respect.

No, no, I'm not questioning that bones were valuable. How do you think I got my first million gp, punk? I'm questioning that any clan could, as they asserted, control all sources of bones. They might be precious, but they ain't rare.

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