If there was a Cantor Archetype what class should it be?


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Sovereign Court

One archetype I have not seen in in Pathfinder (but it is a Job in Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay) is that of a Cantor. A Cantor just so you know is someone in a church that gives Oration and sings Hymns to a deity of some kind. Now it could be a Cleric Archetype as they are praising a God in some way but the problem is Clerics with their crap skill points don't have the dots to spare on Performance based skills to make it viable. It could also be a Bard Archetype, but bard spells are Wild Sorcery and are classified as Arcane thus their powers are not influenced or altered by any divine intervention.

So if you were to make a Cantor archetype, how would you do it?


It is quite common for me to play with PCs that have performance just for the sake of it , like sorcs/summoners/spiritualists... all classes that can have high CHA and would make good use of it.

Usually i pay for it , but if someone say they want to have it and really mind having 1 less skill point/level for one performance , i dont think it is unresonable of the GM to give said extra skill point , could give other players some to spend in a profession or craft , something that few bother to invest in also.

So honestly all i would do is ask the GM to allow me to use an evangelist cleric with more skill points to spend on performance.

Sovereign Court

I think being a Cantor should have some Class Related benefit though. Those who sing Hymns to Gods as their duty to the church should have some class related feature from it. Hence for a Cleric or Bard seems worthy of some kind of Archetype.

One option might be a "Cantor Performance" feature that gives fast healing to allies when you perform. Of course you'ed have to trade off something like Channel Energy for something that powerful and a limited number of times per day so you can't do it all the time.


Seems to me like the evangelist archetype for clerics fits the bill here.


The point is OP , being an evangelist cleric makes you a sort of "bard cleric" , you can use bardic performances and be a cleric which means divine magic.

Like said by born_of_fire , what you want is really close to that , just seem you want more skill points.

Scarab Sages

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Or frankly, just be a Bard. Bardic Magic is technically arcane, but does that really matter? They wear armor, they have cure spells, and per Inner Sea Gods, several faiths have bards as official clergy and they can gain spells that are otherwise divine based on deity.


Imbicatus wrote:
Or frankly, just be a Bard. Bardic Magic is technically arcane, but does that really matter? They wear armor, they have cure spells, and per Inner Sea Gods, several faiths have bards as official clergy and they can gain spells that are otherwise divine based on deity.

Yup, and you can even take the Arcane Healer archetype and channel energy same as a cleric (one level lower.) While it may say...

Though bards may have different reasons for wanting to heal the sick and injured, both out of pure altruism and in order to keep adventuring companions safe, the ability to heal also makes it much easier for a bard to pose as a cleric or other divine healer, opening the door for a wide array of swindles and scams.

that doesn't mean you have to be a swindler.

In fact, a bard cleric of sorts is what this character is. she's an Arcane Healer/Sound Striker and worships Shelyn and Dou-Bral (she has the trait "Abject Belief" and she hopes someday to help Shelyn get her brother back.)


Personally I think both the Cantor and the Skald should be Bard archetypes.

That said, you could always make the Cantor a separate class that is a Bard/Cleric hybrid the way a Skald is a Bard/Barbarian hybrid.


While I favor the Cantor as a bard archetype, if you want to make a new cleric archetype for it, feel free. Clerics need some options for good archetypes beyond Herald Caller and Evangelist, maybe you'll make the newest one lol. Also, to solve the skill point issue, Perform is available as a background skill if you're using Unchained.

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