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Well, at least that got resolved. Hate that the cleric left, but yeah you can step in to help with the healing love.

And glad you found a group!


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I find Carrion Crown very unsatisfying. The story is boring and the fights are very frustrating and un-fun.

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The use of the game term "fame" in Starfinder Society vs Pathfinder Society. After 9 years of trying to teach confused newbies (and some experienced players who just never paid that much attention) the difference between "fame" and "prestige" in PFS, they're now using the word "fame" in SFS to represent what was "prestige" in PFS.


Xexyz wrote:
I find Carrion Crown very unsatisfying. The story is boring and the fights are very frustrating and un-fun.

Both of which are pitfalls I'm striving to overcome in my own CC game.


When you spend 3 out of your precious 4 weekly gaming hours on talking about plans, and the rest of the party makes every encounter pretty much work out like this scene from the Simpsons.

Scarab Sages

Why are there so many fire-damage wizard spells? And why did PF lose all the lovely force spells that 3.5 had? Hardly anything is immune to force, so those spells were fabulous. There was even a prestige class based around them.

I'm playing an elementalist wizard whose element is wood, so I've decided she isn't very fond of fire. It isn't the opposition element for wood, she just doesn't like it very much. I'm also playing a cleric of the fire domain in another AP and since he does lots of fire damage I didn't want to make my wizard too similar. The same players are in both APs and they would get confused over which character I'm playing in which AP since both characters are elves.

But it just feels like you're almost required to take fireball if you're playing a wizard and want to do area effect damage.


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People smacking their mouths while they eat. Drives me nuts. I don't want to hear your meal, thanks. Worst part is ... my spouse has slid into that habit of late. *le sigh*


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Dire Elf wrote:

Why are there so many fire-damage wizard spells? And why did PF lose all the lovely force spells that 3.5 had? Hardly anything is immune to force, so those spells were fabulous. There was even a prestige class based around them.

I'm playing an elementalist wizard whose element is wood, so I've decided she isn't very fond of fire. It isn't the opposition element for wood, she just doesn't like it very much. I'm also playing a cleric of the fire domain in another AP and since he does lots of fire damage I didn't want to make my wizard too similar. The same players are in both APs and they would get confused over which character I'm playing in which AP since both characters are elves.

But it just feels like you're almost required to take fireball if you're playing a wizard and want to do area effect damage.

That's why I allow the 3.5 Spell Compendium and Magic of Faerun in my campaign -- to add some force spells to the lists of spellcasters.


The Mad Comrade wrote:
People smacking their mouths while they eat. Drives me nuts. I don't want to hear your meal, thanks. Worst part is ... my spouse has slid into that habit of late. *le sigh*

Had a room mate back in the 80s who did this. He's lucky he survived until the 90s when we all went our separate ways...

Scarab Sages

My grievance today:

My good friend, who is also my GM, has terrible judgment in choosing romantic partners.


My grievance is one of my best players who only recently rejoined our gaming circle after being gone for many years falls hard and fast for any man she dates. She's by far our best fighter but she's already said that now that she's met "the love of her life" after only one date we won't be seeing her very much anymore.


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I am incapable of spelling Lamashtu's name the same way twice without looking up the correct spelling.

*squints ill-temperedly* Dang Mesopotamians, having the audacity to have different culture than mine, and a different language than modern day english! Who do they think they are, one of the first civilizations and the first to invent a form of writing or something? *shakes fist and grumbles*

Scarab Sages

DungeonmasterCal wrote:
My grievance is one of my best players who only recently rejoined our gaming circle after being gone for many years falls hard and fast for any man she dates. She's by far our best fighter but she's already said that now that she's met "the love of her life" after only one date we won't be seeing her very much anymore.

My friend is kind of like that too. Plans for moving out of town to live with the new romantic partner were in the works pretty quickly. Then it all fell apart and Friend is too depressed to GM.


I just had to cancel my pre-order for Sandy Peterson's "Cthulhu Mythos" so I can buy dog food and *one* of my meds.


One guy I game with has decreed a 'no sex' rule at his tables, seriously cramping the style of some of my characters, not that I tend to describe sexual exploits in detail, but he's mastering a table where my character is in love and betrothed, and another where my drow character has a very close relationship with his matron... he's trying to drag me into another table, but I'm not sure I'll accept, his 'social contract' (yep, he has a lot of other rules) is getting downright oppressive.


There's sex at the table then there's implied sex at the table. We've never been a group to really get into explicit details about it, and now that we have the 13 year old daughter of one of our players in our game we just hand wave it completely. Two of players have PCs that are betrothed to someone and we don't feel it necessary to go into any details about what happens behind palace doors.

I don't have a problem with rules about it if I'm playing in someone else's game, though I don't really get into it as much as some players do. And yeah, it sounds like he's starting to get a bit oppressive.


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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
I just had to cancel my pre-order for Sandy Peterson's "Cthulhu Mythos" so I can buy dog food and *one* of my meds.

I'll karp and flop about that thread for you in spirit if that helps. Good luck!


LOL please do!


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I just roll a D20 and if 18, 19, 20 come up, there is a pregnancy. That's with 2 humans of opposite genders, so apply modifiers as necessary.

I was off line a lot lately, but now I've replaced the old modem so expect me to post more.


Group projects.


A couple of fertile-age humans has 80% likelihood of pregnancy within the first YEAR of sexual activity aimed at pregancy. For two years, it is 90%. Yeah. Not as much as people think.

Scarab Sages

As a player, I wouldn't want my character to become pregnant. That's a complication I don't need in my gaming experience.

This reminds me of a rules grievance I have: why are there half-elves and half-orcs, but not half-dwarves or half-gnomes or other hybrids?

I know that it stems from the "half-elves" in Tolkien, like Elrond (who wasn't actually a half-elf in the D&D/PF sense; he had a human great-grandfather, but he could also have been considered an aasimar, since his great-great-grandmother was one of the Maiar).

Clearly the character races in D&D and PF have diverged from that source material, but it still doesn't make any sense that humans seem to be the only race that can interbreed with other races, but not all of the other races. Even if you treat it like breeding horses and donkeys to create mules/hinnies, there should be more detail to it. Mules and hinnies are usually sterile. Should half-elves and half-orcs be incapable of reproduction? Or should it be possible for all humanoid races and their offspring to interbreed?

If the other races did interbreed what would we call them? Dwelves? Quarterlings? Dworcs? Gnelfs? Gnaflings?


I'm on the bleeding edge of not allowing hyrbrid races in my next campaign. I've already made half orcs their own race, not a hybrid between humans and orcs, so half elves are nearly on the chopping block.


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Malefactor wrote:
I am incapable of spelling Lamashtu's name the same way twice without looking up the correct spelling.

Every time anyone says "Lamashtu" I have to suppress the urge to say "Gesundheit."


No one else has finished their Starfinder characters.

I might need to find a SFS group to even play Starfinder.

It's quite discouraging.


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Koborcs, dwagres, xvalfs, gnotyughs, and so on. Or as they are collectively called: AAAAAAAH!!!!


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Sissyl wrote:
Koborcs, dwagres, xvalfs, gnotyughs, and so on. Or as they are collectively called: AAAAAAAH!!!!

Finally... my mastery of Scrabble will be complete!!!


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Now you'll be able to beat Commander Waterford. That sanctimonious prick.

Scarab Sages

DungeonmasterCal wrote:
I'm on the bleeding edge of not allowing hyrbrid races in my next campaign. I've already made half orcs their own race, not a hybrid between humans and orcs, so half elves are nearly on the chopping block.

One thing I liked about Eberron was that half-elves were their own race.

My grievances today are threefold:
Boob armor/bare midriff/boob windows on female characters;
Sexy poses on female character art; and
High heels on females.

Anyone who knows armor would know that shaping that to a woman's breasts would be a bad idea. It would create a spot for weapons to catch on, among other things. I realize this isn't really a concern for PF, but it still annoys me that depictions of female characters always give them boob armor or other ways to indicate that the character is female.

Female characters also get the "sexy" poses much more than males. Males get masculine "stand fast" or action poses.

Females also get heels. Women have not traditionally been the only wearers of heels until the 20th century, and no one going out to explore a dungeon or fight a dragon would wear heels, male or female.

The audience for these games is no longer predominately male, so why are artists still catering to these tropes? I know, I know, change doesn't happen overnight.


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I'm with you on everything you said about the armor. It's a ridiculous, outdated, and dare I say even sexist trope. But even female artists still do it, too, though I don't really look at as sexist so much as I do the impracticality of it.


Dire Elf, I can't find my Eberron book at the moment, but could you refresh my memory on the half elf being their own race thing? Thanks!


Aaargh! My memory is failing, I mixed up the swords Herugrim ("fierce sword") belonging to King Théoden of Rohan, with Aranruth ("King's Ire) belonging to Elu Thingol, and later to the Kings on Nùmenor... I even went so far as to wonder if the two names might be two different versions (Rohirric and Sindarin) of the same name...


I've been dming a 5e campaign, that's kind of fantasy with Western expansion themes. The players mounted a coup last session and it was tons of fun. That was a month ago :( I hope it doesn't die out.

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Grievance: I find myself suddenly aware of a gap in my knowledge base for a project.


Dire Elf: I think I am going to need a reference on "no longer predominantly male". It would be fascinating to see actual, up to date figures, but I haven't heard of any such study.


Believing that reality is a lie is the only thing that keeps me going at all.

It saves me the trouble of fact checking everything I'm told. Most of it's lies.

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Sick for 8 days and counting. :(


Ugh. What malady has you down?

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The common cold. Hit me like a truck.


Wow. I guess so! I've been down for 3 or 4 days with a cold before, but you're breaking that record wide open! Feel better! Take your Nyquil, aspirin or favorite fever reducer, get plenty of fluids, etc. You know the drill!

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Yep. This is why you don't dump CON. I've got like a 5.


I had the swine flu when it was trendy.


my bank is still holding fast onto my month's money, being penniless definitely ruined my day.


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captain yesterday wrote:
I had the swine flu when it was trendy.

Pfft. I’ve had swine flu, lizard fever, porcupine cough, and eggplant toe. All at the same time.


Klorox wrote:
my bank is still holding fast onto my month's money, being penniless definitely ruined my day.

Why won't they release it?


the transfer is on the 30, but they never release it at once to my account, I'd change banks but am afraid it would be no better. it's a French banking custom that lets them play with your money while you wait.


Ugh.. that really stinks.


I won't deal with banks. TD bank held up the deposits, then rushed the direct withdrawals, just so they could charge overdraft fees. I guess they don't have Walmart Visa Debit cards in France. Seriously, I can believe they might have a law against competition for the banks.

Scarab Sages

I've been having some nostalgia for Eberron lately. Aside from the cool magic-powered technology, different spins on classic races, and new races, part of the appeal for me was that the countries didn't all feel like analogues of real world nations/cultures. It didn't have a pseudo-Western Europe, a pseudo-equatorial Africa, or a pseudo-feudal Japan. Everything felt fresh and unique.

And I really wanted to visit Xen'drik someday. Sigh.


I got my money at last, but found something else to grump about.
I'm partially bearded (moustache and goatee but shaven cheeks) and I'm at a point where I'm at a lose /lose game : I'm bored to death of shaving (always detested that) but I can't stand the bristly feeling of my unshaven cheeks while I wait for the beard to grow back fully...

@Dire Elf. I don't particularly miss Eberron, except when I feel like playing a warforged or changeling (prefer them a LOT to the PF version), but I regret never visiting Xen'Drik too.

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