The brothel to dance hall thing

[M1k31]

Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?

[Adagna]

lowfyr01 wrote:

Great now i will always think about the special kind of "dancing" if somenone says he will go to the dance hall.

And it is always funny that you can show someone get ripped apart but any sign of nudity will cause a scandal.

I think inherently violence is "meant" to be shared. You go to war with thousands of other warriors. Lay waste to your enemies in broad daylight and leave the corpses for the survivors to clean up.

Sex/nudity is inherently an intimate act, and short of orgies meant to be shared with just one other person.

I think this mainly explains why people have no issue with violence but sexuality puts them up at arms.

[James Jacobs]

M1k31 wrote:

Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?

There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.

I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.

[MMCJawa]

I would think "opting out" could simply be replacing dance hall with brothel when you see it...

[M1k31]

James Jacobs wrote:

M1k31 wrote:

Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?

There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.

I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.

I mean like the difference between buying "clean" versions of CD's(PDFs/books in this case) versus "explicit/unrated", perhaps gating any unrated material behind age filters.

That seems fair enough.

[Weirdo]

Adagna wrote:

I think inherently violence is "meant" to be shared. You go to war with thousands of other warriors. Lay waste to your enemies in broad daylight and leave the corpses for the survivors to clean up.

Sex/nudity is inherently an intimate act, and short of orgies meant to be shared with just one other person.

I think this mainly explains why people have no issue with violence but sexuality puts them up at arms.

Interesting theory, except if this were about inherent traits of violence and sexuality then you would expect to see very similar reactions across cultures. As this thread demonstrates, that's not the case.

[James Jacobs]

M1k31 wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

M1k31 wrote:

Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?

There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.

I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.

I mean like the difference between buying "clean" versions of CD's(PDFs/books in this case) versus "explicit/unrated", perhaps gating any unrated material behind age filters.

That seems fair enough.

Oh.

That's not really an option. The books are complex enough as it stands to produce without us producing multiple different versions like that.

[Isonaroc]

I'd be lying if changes like that didn't irk me. If it was that way all along I never would've cared, but the fact that it was altered in what appears to be a sanitation effort doesn't sit well.

Adagna wrote:

Sex/nudity is inherently an intimate act, and short of orgies meant to be shared with just one other person.

I really want to argue with you, but this is not the place.

[M1k31]

James Jacobs wrote:

M1k31 wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

M1k31 wrote:

Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?

There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.

I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.

I mean like the difference between buying "clean" versions of CD's(PDFs/books in this case) versus "explicit/unrated", perhaps gating any unrated material behind age filters.

That seems fair enough.

Oh.

That's not really an option. The books are complex enough as it stands to produce without us producing multiple different versions like that.

I meant on books/PDF's specific about said content, like Calistra or brothels.

[Purple Dragon Knight]

My unchained rogue recently unchained himself in a 'temple' of Arshea... ... ..... and the DM tricked me; and now my character is an unchained joke to the other characters of advanced class.... ....

[Cthulhudrew]

In ze Dance Hall, ze only dancing allowed is ze Lambada. Ze Forbidden Dance!

[Fourshadow]

James Jacobs wrote:

M1k31 wrote:

Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?

There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.

I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.

Great...the 1st AP I consider getting a complete set of and now this. Rather disappointing. Not demanding any changes, just expressing disappointment. I will have to get a look at it before I decide whether to complete the set.

[Jeremias]

Isonaroc wrote:

Biggest brothel? Are you talking about Pascha? One of my co-workers had her birthday party there at the strip club portion and was SUPER pissed they wouldn't let her upstairs.

Yup, that one!

[James Jacobs]

Fourshadow wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

M1k31 wrote:

Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?

There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.

I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.

Great...the 1st AP I consider getting a complete set of and now this. Rather disappointing. Not demanding any changes, just expressing disappointment. I will have to get a look at it before I decide whether to complete the set.

And here we have a good example of why GMs are so important, because while we CAN NOT make an adventure that will please everyone, each GM can make one to please his/her group.

That said, the final part of this adventure path...

Spoiler:

...does take place in Hell, and I'm not gonna "satanize" that.

[Isonaroc]

James Jacobs wrote:

That said, the final part of this adventure path...

Spoiler:

...does take place in Hell, and I'm not gonna "satanize" that.

...I see what you did there.

[Fourshadow]

James Jacobs wrote:

Fourshadow wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

M1k31 wrote:

Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?

There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.

I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.

Great...the 1st AP I consider getting a complete set of and now this. Rather disappointing. Not demanding any changes, just expressing disappointment. I will have to get a look at it before I decide whether to complete the set.

And here we have a good example of why GMs are so important, because while we CAN NOT make an adventure that will please everyone, each GM can make one to please his/her group.

That said, the final part of this adventure path... ** spoiler omitted **

That helps...and makes sense.

[Saldiven]

MannyGoblin wrote:

Just something I have noticed that is starting to crop up, the favorite hang out of adventurers everywhere, the brothel is changing into the dancehall. Ultimate Campaign and Hell's Rebels(three legged devil) feature places where PCs can have a nice relaxing square dance after a delve. So are the Prophets of Kalistrade infiltrating areas and having people to the Polka instead of the Horizontal Mambo?

I must be weird or something.

I've been doing the D&D (and now Pathfinder) thing since 1978.

I've never played in a group where a brothel was the "favorite hangout" for the characters. Honestly, I can only recall one or two times where a player ever even mentioned his character wanting to go to one.

[Isonaroc]

Saldiven wrote:

MannyGoblin wrote:

Just something I have noticed that is starting to crop up, the favorite hang out of adventurers everywhere, the brothel is changing into the dancehall. Ultimate Campaign and Hell's Rebels(three legged devil) feature places where PCs can have a nice relaxing square dance after a delve. So are the Prophets of Kalistrade infiltrating areas and having people to the Polka instead of the Horizontal Mambo?

I must be weird or something.

I've been doing the D&D (and now Pathfinder) thing since 1978.

I've never played in a group where a brothel was the "favorite hangout" for the characters. Honestly, I can only recall one or two times where a player ever even mentioned his character wanting to go to one.

Yeah, taverns are the traditional hangouts. Though there are brothels that crop up now and again. There was one run by the Calistrian Church in a PFS module.

[James Jacobs]

Isonaroc wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

That said, the final part of this adventure path...** spoiler omitted **

...I see what you did there.

Hee! I hoped someone would get a kick out of that.

[Tacticslion]

James, did you edit your post just as I was hitting reply? Slick, man!:

James Jacobs wrote:

Hee! I hoped someone would get a kick out of that.

Though someone would get a kick out of it... what?! Agh! James, you gotta tell me! Help me out, man! The suspense is killing meeeeee~eee~!

:(

Just kiddin' around! :D I do that enough that I know how easily it happens, plus your actual joke was based off of a slight misspelling...

Slick!

[Nox Aeterna]

Saldiven wrote:

MannyGoblin wrote:

Just something I have noticed that is starting to crop up, the favorite hang out of adventurers everywhere, the brothel is changing into the dancehall. Ultimate Campaign and Hell's Rebels(three legged devil) feature places where PCs can have a nice relaxing square dance after a delve. So are the Prophets of Kalistrade infiltrating areas and having people to the Polka instead of the Horizontal Mambo?

I must be weird or something.

I've been doing the D&D (and now Pathfinder) thing since 1978.

I've never played in a group where a brothel was the "favorite hangout" for the characters. Honestly, I can only recall one or two times where a player ever even mentioned his character wanting to go to one.

To ba fair , this is quite true , i never had any PC that went to one out of the blue and neither did i see others doing it also. Usually the GM must say it is there and then people might take an interest , nobody really seeks it out.

Still i usually assume they are around at most cities in the games i play.

[Kobold Catgirl]

Isonaroc wrote:

MannyGoblin wrote:

*Facepalm* Well this escalated quickly.

*grins loudly*

AUGH MY EARS

HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT

[Liz Courts]

Removed a post. Keep it clean and PG-13, folks.

[Isonaroc]

Liz Courts wrote:

Removed a post. Keep it clean and PG-13, folks.

Awww...can't you wait until I see it before you kill it? I always feel like Johnny-Come-Lately when posts get removed.

[Liz Courts]

Isonaroc wrote:

Liz Courts wrote:

Removed a post. Keep it clean and PG-13, folks.

Awww...can't you wait until I see it before you kill it? I always feel like Johnny-Come-Lately when posts get removed.

ಠ_ಠ

[kyrt-ryder]

Isonaroc wrote:

there's no wrong way to discover table top...unless, I suppose, you were kidnapped by a serial killer who forced you and other victims to play and actually killed you when your character died...

Dude this sounds like an awesome movie.

[kyrt-ryder]

Alzrius wrote:

At least, that seems more in line with the company's recent actions, such as changing Erastil from "good-aligned god of traditional values" to "good-aligned god of families, regardless of their makeup," and Asmodeus from "God of Hell" to "God of Hell and The Patriarchy."

Wut

[Saldiven]

Nox Aeterna wrote:

Saldiven wrote:

MannyGoblin wrote:

Just something I have noticed that is starting to crop up, the favorite hang out of adventurers everywhere, the brothel is changing into the dancehall. Ultimate Campaign and Hell's Rebels(three legged devil) feature places where PCs can have a nice relaxing square dance after a delve. So are the Prophets of Kalistrade infiltrating areas and having people to the Polka instead of the Horizontal Mambo?

I must be weird or something.

I've been doing the D&D (and now Pathfinder) thing since 1978.

I've never played in a group where a brothel was the "favorite hangout" for the characters. Honestly, I can only recall one or two times where a player ever even mentioned his character wanting to go to one.

To ba fair , this is quite true , i never had any PC that went to one out of the blue and neither did i see others doing it also. Usually the GM must say it is there and then people might take an interest , nobody really seeks it out.

Still i usually assume they are around at most cities in the games i play.

Glad it's not just me. From the tenor of the original post, I started to wonder if I had been doing this wrong all these years.