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Great now i will always think about the special kind of "dancing" if somenone says he will go to the dance hall.
And it is always funny that you can show someone get ripped apart but any sign of nudity will cause a scandal.
I think inherently violence is "meant" to be shared. You go to war with thousands of other warriors. Lay waste to your enemies in broad daylight and leave the corpses for the survivors to clean up.
Sex/nudity is inherently an intimate act, and short of orgies meant to be shared with just one other person.
I think this mainly explains why people have no issue with violence but sexuality puts them up at arms.
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Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?
There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.
I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.
M1k31 |
M1k31 wrote:Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.
I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.
I mean like the difference between buying "clean" versions of CD's(PDFs/books in this case) versus "explicit/unrated", perhaps gating any unrated material behind age filters.
That seems fair enough.
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I think inherently violence is "meant" to be shared. You go to war with thousands of other warriors. Lay waste to your enemies in broad daylight and leave the corpses for the survivors to clean up.
Sex/nudity is inherently an intimate act, and short of orgies meant to be shared with just one other person.
I think this mainly explains why people have no issue with violence but sexuality puts them up at arms.
Interesting theory, except if this were about inherent traits of violence and sexuality then you would expect to see very similar reactions across cultures. As this thread demonstrates, that's not the case.
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James Jacobs wrote:M1k31 wrote:Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.
I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.
I mean like the difference between buying "clean" versions of CD's(PDFs/books in this case) versus "explicit/unrated", perhaps gating any unrated material behind age filters.
That seems fair enough.
Oh.
That's not really an option. The books are complex enough as it stands to produce without us producing multiple different versions like that.
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I'd be lying if changes like that didn't irk me. If it was that way all along I never would've cared, but the fact that it was altered in what appears to be a sanitation effort doesn't sit well.
Sex/nudity is inherently an intimate act, and short of orgies meant to be shared with just one other person.
I really want to argue with you, but this is not the place.
M1k31 |
M1k31 wrote:James Jacobs wrote:M1k31 wrote:Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.
I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.
I mean like the difference between buying "clean" versions of CD's(PDFs/books in this case) versus "explicit/unrated", perhaps gating any unrated material behind age filters.
That seems fair enough.
Oh.
That's not really an option. The books are complex enough as it stands to produce without us producing multiple different versions like that.
I meant on books/PDF's specific about said content, like Calistra or brothels.
Fourshadow |
M1k31 wrote:Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.
I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.
Great...the 1st AP I consider getting a complete set of and now this. Rather disappointing. Not demanding any changes, just expressing disappointment. I will have to get a look at it before I decide whether to complete the set.
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James Jacobs wrote:Great...the 1st AP I consider getting a complete set of and now this. Rather disappointing. Not demanding any changes, just expressing disappointment. I will have to get a look at it before I decide whether to complete the set.M1k31 wrote:Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.
I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.
And here we have a good example of why GMs are so important, because while we CAN NOT make an adventure that will please everyone, each GM can make one to please his/her group.
That said, the final part of this adventure path...
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Fourshadow wrote:James Jacobs wrote:Great...the 1st AP I consider getting a complete set of and now this. Rather disappointing. Not demanding any changes, just expressing disappointment. I will have to get a look at it before I decide whether to complete the set.M1k31 wrote:Are there still "explicit" materials released by Paizo that cover the subjects of "dance halls" and Calistra, or ways to "opt out" of the sanitizing James?There are. For example, the final Hell's Rebels adventure, which I'm working on right now, has some pretty R-rated content in it, particularly at the end.
I'm not sure what you mean by "opting out" though.
And here we have a good example of why GMs are so important, because while we CAN NOT make an adventure that will please everyone, each GM can make one to please his/her group.
That said, the final part of this adventure path... ** spoiler omitted **
That helps...and makes sense.
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Just something I have noticed that is starting to crop up, the favorite hang out of adventurers everywhere, the brothel is changing into the dancehall. Ultimate Campaign and Hell's Rebels(three legged devil) feature places where PCs can have a nice relaxing square dance after a delve. So are the Prophets of Kalistrade infiltrating areas and having people to the Polka instead of the Horizontal Mambo?
I must be weird or something.
I've been doing the D&D (and now Pathfinder) thing since 1978.
I've never played in a group where a brothel was the "favorite hangout" for the characters. Honestly, I can only recall one or two times where a player ever even mentioned his character wanting to go to one.
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MannyGoblin wrote:Just something I have noticed that is starting to crop up, the favorite hang out of adventurers everywhere, the brothel is changing into the dancehall. Ultimate Campaign and Hell's Rebels(three legged devil) feature places where PCs can have a nice relaxing square dance after a delve. So are the Prophets of Kalistrade infiltrating areas and having people to the Polka instead of the Horizontal Mambo?I must be weird or something.
I've been doing the D&D (and now Pathfinder) thing since 1978.
I've never played in a group where a brothel was the "favorite hangout" for the characters. Honestly, I can only recall one or two times where a player ever even mentioned his character wanting to go to one.
Yeah, taverns are the traditional hangouts. Though there are brothels that crop up now and again. There was one run by the Calistrian Church in a PFS module.
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Hee! I hoped someone would get a kick out of that.
Though someone would get a kick out of it... what?! Agh! James, you gotta tell me! Help me out, man! The suspense is killing meeeeee~eee~!
:(
Just kiddin' around! :D I do that enough that I know how easily it happens, plus your actual joke was based off of a slight misspelling...
Slick!
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MannyGoblin wrote:Just something I have noticed that is starting to crop up, the favorite hang out of adventurers everywhere, the brothel is changing into the dancehall. Ultimate Campaign and Hell's Rebels(three legged devil) feature places where PCs can have a nice relaxing square dance after a delve. So are the Prophets of Kalistrade infiltrating areas and having people to the Polka instead of the Horizontal Mambo?I must be weird or something.
I've been doing the D&D (and now Pathfinder) thing since 1978.
I've never played in a group where a brothel was the "favorite hangout" for the characters. Honestly, I can only recall one or two times where a player ever even mentioned his character wanting to go to one.
To ba fair , this is quite true , i never had any PC that went to one out of the blue and neither did i see others doing it also. Usually the GM must say it is there and then people might take an interest , nobody really seeks it out.
Still i usually assume they are around at most cities in the games i play.
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Saldiven |
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Saldiven wrote:MannyGoblin wrote:Just something I have noticed that is starting to crop up, the favorite hang out of adventurers everywhere, the brothel is changing into the dancehall. Ultimate Campaign and Hell's Rebels(three legged devil) feature places where PCs can have a nice relaxing square dance after a delve. So are the Prophets of Kalistrade infiltrating areas and having people to the Polka instead of the Horizontal Mambo?I must be weird or something.
I've been doing the D&D (and now Pathfinder) thing since 1978.
I've never played in a group where a brothel was the "favorite hangout" for the characters. Honestly, I can only recall one or two times where a player ever even mentioned his character wanting to go to one.
To ba fair , this is quite true , i never had any PC that went to one out of the blue and neither did i see others doing it also. Usually the GM must say it is there and then people might take an interest , nobody really seeks it out.
Still i usually assume they are around at most cities in the games i play.
Glad it's not just me. From the tenor of the original post, I started to wonder if I had been doing this wrong all these years.