So, demoing at PAX evidently forces you to run through so many edge cases you still find something that you've never experienced before.
And I thought I actually thought about all of them.
So, you have a Mythic Archmage (in the demo's case, it's Enora) with 0 charges. You then encounter a Blessing of Ascension. Blessing of Ascension reads "If you encounter this card and you have a mythic charge, you automatically acquire it." You then play a Blessing of Ascension in your hand to add a mythic charge. This is legal since the new sidebar Vic mentioned says that you can play anything that affects the check on the check. Since gaining a mythic charge adds 1 to the Charisma check (due to being Mythic Archmage), it's legal to play.
Do you then automatically acquire the Blessing of Ascension? You have a mythic charge, and the ability isn't a trigger (it says "if"). But this trick only works on Archmage or Hierophant because both of those enhance Charisma (any class with a Divine would also be Wisdom or Charisma and thus only Hierophant)
Somehow, even the demo never ceases to amaze me.
Hmmm... I don't think that should work for 2 reasons.
1. You are kind of going starting to attempt the check, and then stopping it. i.e. you are getting all the way up to "Play cards and use powers that affect the check" and then aren't actually attempting a check anymore. So does that power really still affect the check?
2. It at least feels like it should trigger for automatically acquiring as a "When encountered" thing.
Apply any effects that happen when you encounter a card.
Apply any evasion effects.
Apply any effects that happen before you act.
Attempt the check.
Attempt the next check, if needed.
Apply any effects that happen after you act.
Resolve the encounter.
I know it says "if" not "when" but it still feels like it should happen as an effect when you encounter the card.
That is my opinion, anyway.
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Hmmm... I don't think that should work for 2 reasons.
1. You are kind of going starting to attempt the check, and then stopping it. i.e. you are getting all the way up to "Play cards and use powers that affect the check" and then aren't actually attempting a check anymore. So does that power really still affect the check?
2. It at least feels like it should trigger for automatically acquiring as a "When encountered" thing.
Apply any effects that happen when you encounter a card.
Apply any evasion effects.
Apply any effects that happen before you act.
Attempt the check.
Attempt the next check, if needed.
Apply any effects that happen after you act.
Resolve the encounter.I know it says "if" not "when" but it still feels like it should happen as an effect when you encounter the card.
That is my opinion, anyway.
I read it the same way. That playing it the way you guys did seems a stretch. I don't think it should work that way. And pretty much because of #1 that Hawkmoon stated ... you're interrupting the first check to do a sort of secondary check then back to the first.
The usual problem is that I use "MtG logic" in this type of thing and to me "you automatically acquire it" is something like an alternate cost (or alternate check to acquire). So I would prefer to see it errata'd to "When you encounter..." even if it doesn't end up in the errata pack, because then it would be explicitly a trigger.
Do I think it should work that way? Probably not (if I switch to my PACG logic brain), mostly because it doesn't make sense to have it affect only 2 Mythic Paths.
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I've been waiting for somebody to ask this question since the day Wrath came out—I'm quite surprised it took this long. The answer has always been "yes, you can," (though recent and pending rulings have made adjustments to exactly *how* you can...)
This FAQ says "If a power allows you to automatically defeat or acquire a card, you may use it instead of attempting the check."
In that sentence, "instead of" tells you that in the step in which you would normally attempt the check, you are instead checking to see if you have a mythic charge.
And since we're still in an encounter, this bit from "Encountering a Card" still applies: "Players may only play cards or use powers that relate to each step (or relate to cards played or powers used in that step)." Playing Blessing of Ascension to get a mythic charge certainly relates to checking to see if you have one, so regardless of which Mythic Path you have, you can do it.
I love this one!
This game never ceases to amaze me...