Mystic bolt, how does it work?

[Chess Pwn]

So I'm curious if Mystic bolt works with two weapon fighting or rapid shot? Can a monk Flurry with them?

[kestral287]

Works with TWF but it's only a single weapon so you need, say, Bolt + dagger. Works with Rapid Shot. Flurry... how do you plan to make that work? It's not a Monk weapon.

[Entryhazard]

We need a Mystic Bolt deity for dat Crusader's Flurry

[The black raven]

Way I read the blog's comments, Dev said that it was ONE mystic bolt each round and that's it. You can still make other attacks in the round, as long as they are not mystic bolts.

[Chess Pwn]

"and he can make a full attack using mystic bolts." So he can full attack with mystic bolts.

[Extra Anchovies]

The black raven wrote:

Way I read the blog's comments, Dev said that it was ONE mystic bolt each round and that's it. You can still make other attacks in the round, as long as they are not mystic bolts.

Oh geez. If this happens I won't like any of the specializations.

[The black raven]

It's on the first page of the blog's comments

Logan Bonner wrote:

Imbicatus wrote:

Also, can a Warlock combine Mystic Bolts with two weapon fighting? Mystic Bolts takes the place of an attack, so it seems like it would be possible.

You can create/fire only one mystic bolt at a time, so you can two-weapon fight with a mystic bolt and a different weapon, but you can't two-weapon fight with two mystic bolts.

Sorry guys. I was also rather disappointed there. Some ability (even at later levels) to have more mystic bolts per round would be great.

[Cwethan]

My read was that you only make one at a time rather than one per round, so you can still make iterative attacks, you just can't dual-wield your mystic bolts.

[Imbicatus]

The power explicitly states you can you can make a full attack using mystic bolts. The developer comment only stops you from using two weapon fighting with a separate mystic bolt in each hand.

I'm not sure if Rapid Shot would work based on the dev comment. Based on RAW, yes, but I don't think it's RAI.

[Gisher]

The black raven wrote:

Way I read the blog's comments, Dev said that it was ONE mystic bolt each round and that's it. You can still make other attacks in the round, as long as they are not mystic bolts.

I assume that you mean this comment.

Logan Bonner wrote:

Imbicatus wrote:

Also, can a Warlock combine Mystic Bolts with two weapon fighting? Mystic Bolts takes the place of an attack, so it seems like it would be possible.

You can create/fire only one mystic bolt at a time, so you can two-weapon fight with a mystic bolt and a different weapon, but you can't two-weapon fight with two mystic bolts.

He didn't say anything about having one per round. He said you could only have one at a time. You can't TWF with just Mystic Bolt for the same reason that you can't TWF with a single dagger. You need to wield two weapons to TWF and Mystic Bolt only counts as one.

Mark Seifter confirmed that you can use Mystic Bolt as one of your two weapons.

Mark Seifter wrote:

As Logan (designer of mystic bolt) has already stated in the main thread, you can TWF with mystic bolt and another weapon as your two weapons but mystic bolt alone is not two weapons.

[Zwordsman]

They really should be sure to make it clear in the final product. Since the wording in mystic bolt. uses singlar, UNTIL you pick it up twice then it uses plural Bolts. So some folks somewhere will think that means it's two seperate weapons (and Honestly. I think they should count at that point). repeating handcrossbow i guess would be a fun combo for now

I really hope they'll consider the idea that you if you spend another talent to pick up a different element that you can mystic bolt TWF with each weapon being a different element.

I can totally see one element not being doable.. but I can't really see a reason why two different elements couldn't work out just fine. It has a firm and rather strong cost of talent..

I suppose it hits the issue of TWF with touch AC with out bullet costs maybe..
but I don't think it'd be terrible..

I suppose they could turn it into a talent line. Take 2 mystic bolts then 1 more talent that allows TWF. So you could make a bolt centric warlock...

either way I really want to take all the elements and TWF and fire a different element on each attack.. while spinning Ranger style

[Zwordsman]

REALLY want mystic bolt to raise of caster level instead of warlock level..

There are some fun ideas, but they're harder to do if it works off of class level..

if warlock had spells per day normal progression (with talent to unlock ability to use (though maybe allow for metamagic if slots or not)) then you could make some cool concept characters using warlock as a base.

Like a warlock with some casting and mystic bolt, either vmc rogue or multiclassing going into arcane trickster. Would make a wonderful concept for excpanding on that kind of vigelante.
or making a zapper out of an eldritch knight progression.

Or making a damn hidden dragon man out of dragon disciple.
You could play it SOOOO MUCH like Breath of Fire.. it would be great

[Navarp]

I tend to agree that picking up 2 separate mystic bolts should allow you to TWF your bolts. I cannot imagine that would be overpowered . . .