Fergie |
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Some of the previews make it look like an apocalyptic version of "Batman and Robin" - the one with Arnie as Mr Freeze... Or perhaps something out of Boarderlands 2. Not a high standard for two of my favorite movies of all time.
I don't know, I thought what made Mad Max and the Road Warrior great was the grittiness. There was a certain plausibility to both movies that made them more then typical action movie stuff. Seeing the new trailers I worry that all that grittiness has been replaced by a Fast-and-Furious level of physics defying computer effect silliness. I just want to see crazy Australian stuntmen risking their lives, not a bunch of video game cut scenes.
Lord Snow |
I just watched mad Max 2 a couple days ago for the first time in preparation for this. I didn't like Road Warrior all that much - it clearly didn't age very well, and I couldn't take all those customs seriously because really, I'm pretty sure the cast of the film raided a BDSM store and got creative with what they found there. I appreciate a lot of the intentions of the movie, though. I like the concepts (even the leather-and-spikes customs if done better), I like the visuals of dozens of cars and motorcycles raising dust clouds over a wasteland, I like the gritiness and violence.
I hate trailers so I only took a peek at the trailer for Fury Road... and I have to say it looks like it could be really good. inane, over the top, action packed.
Haven't decided if I'll watch it in theater yet but very interested to watch it eventually.
Turin the Mad |
The notes on The Road Warrior is that BDSM shops is exactly where they got the idea from for many of the costumes they used. Interestingly, it seems that the mining town they were filming in 800 miles out from Sydney (IIRC) a mailman ran an intersection they were filming at and freaked out when he drove into a gaggle of post apocalyptic bikers armed to the teeth.
During filming it was super cold - and they used "purple bums" as the indicator to get warmed back up for the next take. The "main purple bum guy" is attributed with saying that he'd never seen so many purple bums in his life - and that he hoped to never again see purple bums.
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I loved the old Mad Max movie, and Fallout which was pretty obviously spawned from it, so I'm interested in this. Even more so since Mel's not part of it. It looks more over the top and action orientated, but I'm OK with that.
My only concern is the trailers and what I know of the plot suggesting a repeat of the rape scene from Road Warrior, possibly more than once, and I'm not huge fan of that bit.
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Oh, and it's pretty much all practical effects and stunt men, not CGI.
Yeah, I *really* like this aspect of it. In Road Warrior just about the only thing I enjoyed in the action scenes, which were otherwise very dated, was the real feeling they had. It was easy to tell that I was watching real vehicles that were tinkered into their current shape, that they were really driving around all those gigantic fleets. It was a standout feature.
ShinHakkaider |
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Some of the previews make it look like an apocalyptic version of "Batman and Robin" - the one with Arnie as Mr Freeze... Or perhaps something out of Boarderlands 2. Not a high standard for two of my favorite movies of all time.
I don't know, I thought what made Mad Max and the Road Warrior great was the grittiness. There was a certain plausibility to both movies that made them more then typical action movie stuff. Seeing the new trailers I worry that all that grittiness has been replaced by a Fast-and-Furious level of physics defying computer effect silliness. I just want to see crazy Australian stuntmen risking their lives, not a bunch of video game cut scenes.
I don't know where you're getting the idea that it's computer effect silliness from. There is ONE sequence that they clearly used CGI to generate an environmental effect but everything else is practical stunt-work.
GLORIOUS practical stunt-work.
When you see a car collision or an explosion? It's an actual collision or explosion.
ShinHakkaider |
I loved the old Mad Max movie, and Fallout which was pretty obviously spawned from it, so I'm interested in this. Even more so since Mel's not part of it. It looks more over the top and action orientated, but I'm OK with that.
My only concern is the trailers and what I know of the plot suggesting a repeat of the rape scene from Road Warrior, possibly more than once, and I'm not huge fan of that bit.
Again, I don't know where people are getting this impression from as this movie is probably one of the most pro-women / feminist action movies that I've EVER seen. There are no on-screen rapes and the women as depicted in the movie are WOMEN. Not "Strong female character" archetypes but WOMEN who have something they are trying to accomplish and do so while retaining their compassion and humanity.
Turin the Mad |
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JonGarrett wrote:Again, I don't know where people are getting this impression from as this movie is probably one of the most pro-women / feminist action movies that I've EVER seen. There are no on-screen rapes and the women as depicted in the movie are WOMEN. Not "Strong female character" archetypes but WOMEN who have something they are trying to accomplish and do so while retaining their compassion and humanity.I loved the old Mad Max movie, and Fallout which was pretty obviously spawned from it, so I'm interested in this. Even more so since Mel's not part of it. It looks more over the top and action orientated, but I'm OK with that.
My only concern is the trailers and what I know of the plot suggesting a repeat of the rape scene from Road Warrior, possibly more than once, and I'm not huge fan of that bit.
Shin is spot on here. The women in this film are WOMEN. There is one CGI scene that would be impossible to replicate. Everything else is whacky stunt crew hijinks and spectacular vehicular mayhem.
The setting and characters all have a backstory and some of the props have backstories. The setting is among the most internally consistent - and, frighteningly, most plausible - of any film series.
There are lots of little easter eggs littered throughout the film for those who have seen the first three films.
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JonGarrett |
JonGarrett wrote:Again, I don't know where people are getting this impression from as this movie is probably one of the most pro-women / feminist action movies that I've EVER seen. There are no on-screen rapes and the women as depicted in the movie are WOMEN. Not "Strong female character" archetypes but WOMEN who have something they are trying to accomplish and do so while retaining their compassion and humanity.I loved the old Mad Max movie, and Fallout which was pretty obviously spawned from it, so I'm interested in this. Even more so since Mel's not part of it. It looks more over the top and action orientated, but I'm OK with that.
My only concern is the trailers and what I know of the plot suggesting a repeat of the rape scene from Road Warrior, possibly more than once, and I'm not huge fan of that bit.
Awesome, I'm glad to hear that. My concern was based on the number of times I saw a woman being grabbed or dragged in the trailers plus the secene from Road Warrior, which left something of a mark on me when I was younger, but I'm really glad to hear there's none of that stuff in there.
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When people say there are automotive stunts not done with CGI, it warms my heart and instantly changes my opinion 180 degrees.
My favorite movies are classic '70s fare like Vanishing Point, Gone in 60 Seconds (the original, not the execrable remake), The Junkman, The French Connection, The Seven-Ups, The Driver, Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, Electra Glide in Blue, Le Mans, Two Lane Blacktop, and so on; Carey Loftin and Bill Hickman are my idols. To Live and Die in LA was a classic for the 80s. But then some idiot invented CGI and the whole genre turned to shit.
When Tarantino's Death Proof came out 20 years later, it was like a ray of hope for me.
I hope this one gives me reason for that optimism.
P.S. I hope the "Fury Road" subtitle is a homage to Thunder Road (1958), but that might be too much to hope for.
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From what I've heard, the only CGI is the lightning storm (seen in the trailers) and some CGI/compositing for [REDACTED]'s arm.
Jalopnik: "How The Man Behind The Machines Of Mad Max Put A Hellscape On Wheels" (possible spoilers)
Youtube: "The Apocalyptic Cars of Mad Max: Fury Road"
ShinHakkaider |
From what I've heard, the only CGI is the lightning storm (seen in the trailers) and some CGI/compositing for [REDACTED]'s arm.
Jalopnik: "How The Man Behind The Machines Of Mad Max Put A Hellscape On Wheels" (possible spoilers)
Youtube: "The Apocalyptic Cars of Mad Max: Fury Road"
There's also the CGI removal of wires for some of the stunt work especially the wires on the principles like Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron.
ShinHakkaider |
Is it closer to the very grim and gritty Mad Max 1 & 2, or the less grim and more... Adventurous wouldn't be the right word... Cinematic maybe, Beyond The Thunderdome?
Definitely closer to The Road Warrior than to Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Is it super gory? No. But there are DEFINITELY a few wince worthy moments in this movie (I'm thinking of two in particular...)
Turin the Mad |
Drejk wrote:Is it closer to the very grim and gritty Mad Max 1 & 2, or the less grim and more... Adventurous wouldn't be the right word... Cinematic maybe, Beyond The Thunderdome?Definitely closer to The Road Warrior than to Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Is it super gory? No. But there are DEFINITELY a few wince worthy moments in this movie (I'm thinking of two in particular...)
Good times, good times. ;)
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Just got back from seeing it, it's awesome. It's definitely Mad Max. Tom hardy did a great job as Max. And Charlize Theron was fantastic as well.
It was hard to process at times though, in the beginning I felt I needed subtitles to figure out what was going on.
Most memorable part of the movie though was this guy
Tinkergoth |
Nicholas Hoult was pretty damn awesome as Nux as well. I actually really like him. Also worth noting is that the guy who played Immortan Joe, Hugh Keays-Byrne, is actually the same guy who played Toecutter in the original film.
Also have to agree with atheral, psycho guitarist was a ridiculously cool part of the film.
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Yeah I thought that was Toecutter. Pretty sure one of the old warrior women was from the compound in Mad Max 2.
My thoughts?
* Visually horrifying/fantastic. Saw it on a superhuge screen that shows wildlife docos to tourists.
* Overlong. But I'm not complaining.
* Hardy as Max was a non-event. The personality tics Mel did naturally Hardy attempts, but they seem forced. Max in Fury Road has zero personality.
* The plot is....hang on where was it? But who cares? The cautionary tale is done better elsewhere.
* Love all the nods to the originals.
* I'd say more over the top Thunderdome than it was Mad Max 2. Sure it was more chaotic road-warriorness, and the vehicles and inter-vehicle stunts are awesome, but it is really wasy more stylized and slick than the grittiness and peril of Road Warrior.
* And what do I give it?
Five out of five guzzoline-belching chromesteel stars!!! Witness!!!
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Piercedthrough wrote:Sorry, like George Miller said a while ago, no cameo for Mel. He felt it would be jarring.Dear sweet Jesus on the holy crapper this looks astounding.
Here's hoping that Mel makes an cameo.
No matter what kinda s~@% he's done, I still say he's a hell of an actor.
Does Bruce Spence have a cameo?
Scythia |
Piercedthrough wrote:Sorry, like George Miller said a while ago, no cameo for Mel. He felt it would be jarring.Dear sweet Jesus on the holy crapper this looks astounding.
Here's hoping that Mel makes an cameo.
No matter what kinda s~@% he's done, I still say he's a hell of an actor.
I was a tiny bit disappointed not to see Bruce Spence either.
Then again, no flying machines in this one.
ShinHakkaider |
You see I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum where I thought that cameos would have damaged the movie for me. To me this needed to stand on it's own and be it's own thing. Yes Toecutter from Mad Max is in it but he's barely recognizable on the screen and not as recognizable as Bruce Spence or Mel Gibson or Virginia Hey.
The Evil Dead (2013) actually LOST points for me with that little BS Bruce Campbell cameo after the closing credits. I get it nostolgia. But If I wanted to see those actors in their prime in the movies that I love them in? I'll just watch those movies.
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Just found out about the rage this film is causing amongst MRAs. Have been laughing for 10 minutes solid after reading that apparently the new film has ruined a classic piece of American culture. It's Australian. Created, written and directed by Australians, and for the first three, filmed here.
It's like when one of my friends ranted at me about how much better the original Japanese voice acting for Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust was, because he didn't realise the movie was originally made in English and even screened in cinemas in Japan that way.
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Just found out about the rage this film is causing amongst MRAs. Have been laughing for 10 minutes solid after reading that apparently the new film has ruined a classic piece of American culture.
That's almost enough to make me want to go see it.
A couple friends are going this weekend, but I'm going to be away.Cat-thulhu |
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It is awesome. Paper thin plot, but I just found myself unable to look away, every moment reveals some odd dystopian element that had me thinking how ludicrous it was, yet I just accepted it. Doof Wagon? What the hell? Best vehicle in the whole damn movie. I am so glad to see the MAd Max legacy continue and I hope Millar can pull a sequel to matches it.
I may have missed something here what's the MRAs? Mens rights? I remember hearing something about a bit of a $%$& storm about that.
Oh and Tinkergoth this one was almost filmed in Australia as well, but when they went to film the rain came and all they could film was flowers and bird life - strangely Millar decided that wasn't the direction he wanted.
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Oh and Tinkergoth this one was almost filmed in Australia as well, but when they went to film the rain came and all they could film was flowers and bird life - strangely Millar decided that wasn't the direction he wanted.
Yeah, I know. I was really disappointed by that but hey, unfortunately timing had them scheduled to start filming during a rare occurrence of heavy rain in that region