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Hi,
I have a couple questions about how Grab works in some uncommon situations. These are pretty much immediately about to become relevant to a game occurring this evening. My search-fu may be weak here, but I didn’t immediately sea a clear answer.
For these purposes, let’s consider a Gargantuan creature with 20 ft. reach, and a Medium Cavalier (Large Mount), wielding a lance.
Question 1: If the Cavalier charges, the movement provokes, but does it only provoke from the horse or from both?
Question 2: If the AOO grabs the horse, and it is moved into base contact with the monster, what happens to the rider’s charge attack? The mount’s?
Question 3: If the rider is grabbed while not in base contact with the monster, is he automatically dismounted? Is there some sort of check? Is he prone or standing?
Thanks!
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Hi,
I have a couple questions about how Grab works in some uncommon situations. These are pretty much immediately about to become relevant to a game occurring this evening. My search-fu may be weak here, but I didn’t immediately sea a clear answer.
For these purposes, let’s consider a Gargantuan creature with 20 ft. reach, and a Medium Cavalier (Large Mount), wielding a lance.
Question 1: If the Cavalier charges, the movement provokes, but does it only provoke from the horse or from both?
Question 2: If the AOO grabs the horse, and it is moved into base contact with the monster, what happens to the rider’s charge attack? The mount’s?
Question 3: If the rider is grabbed while not in base contact with the monster, is he automatically dismounted? Is there some sort of check? Is he prone or standing?
Thanks!
1) Both.
2) Both of their charge attacks are interrupted and they did not finish their movement for charge. They're now adjacent to the monster and the cavalier can't attack an adjacent creature with his reach weapon. Another GM may let the horse attack, I wouldn't because the horse did not charge the last squares, he was dragged/moved/whatever.3) This will be mostly up to your GM. Apparently 3.5 or older counted the mount/rider as one creature. Pathfinder has no such wording. If you're going to assume he's dragged off his mount, I would make him make his ride check to see if he successfully recovered from a Soft Fall (DC 15 ride check) to see if he was prone or not.