Can the Bludgeoner feat be used in conjunction with firearms?


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Grand Lodge

The non-lethal damage rules specify that a lethal MELEE weapon can be used non-lethally with a -4 penalty. Seemingly, without something akin to the merciful enchantment or blunt arrows, a ranged weapon cannot be so used.

However, the Bludgeoner feat text makes no mention of being restricted to melee weapons.

Am I to assume that I am still so restricted by the general rule, or does the "specific trumps general" rule apply even with omitted text rather than explicitly stated?


I would say that since bludgeoner calls out that it removes the penalty it still can only be used with melee weapons.


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"Specific trumps general" would be if Bludgeoner said "with any melee or ranged weapon" for example.

The situation in this specific instance the rules make no mention of this restriction one way or another, so the general rule would still apply.

That said, if you'd use your firearm to club someone over the head, I'm pretty sure the feat applies.

Grand Lodge

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"Specific trumps general" would be if Bludgeoner said "with any melee or ranged weapon" for example.

The situation in this specific instance the rules make no mention of this restriction one way or another, so the general rule would still apply.

That said, if you'd use your firearm to club someone over the head, I'm pretty sure the feat applies.

Thanks, that is also my reading. I saw a post indicating to the contrary, and was confused.

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