Spelllists: which is correct?

[Ayanzo]

Alright, so I use a VTT for 3/4ths of the games I run, and this has come up a few times.

Take for example: PFSRD

and the offical PRD: PRD

Where the PRD says glitter dust is sorc/wiz/bard and the d20prsrd bloodrager/magus/witch/summoner

d20pfsrd is pretty popular, but since it includes 3pp content, I usually differ to the PRD. What I noticed is that the spells-by-class section diverges quiet a bit from the the PRD in terms of which classes can do what. I own the PDFs and looking and thinking to myself that perhaps there's fluff material I don't own which adds them to the list.

What's the true verdict however?

[Gauss]

APG p64: Glitterdust is on the Summoner's list.
APG p70: Glitterdust is on the Witch's list.
UM p13: Glitterdust is on the Magus list.
ACG p22: Glitterdust is on the Bloodrager list.

The PRD is not always up to date (or accurate...light spell). I always default to the books.

[Legowaffles]

First off: VTT?

Second off: I'm reasonably certain that only things from the books listed on the PRD, end up on the PRD.

D20pfsrd tends to add that extra stuff, as you yourself mentioned. Note, the 3PP content is in general separate from the Paizo stuff however.

[Gauss]

Legowaffles,

VTT is a Virtual Tabletop. Examples are Roll20 (free) and D20Pro (not free).

None of the stuff he is asking about is 3rd party. They are all Paizo publications. As I mentioned, the PRD is not always kept up to date (and is sometimes inaccurate).

[Orfamay Quest]

Ayanzo wrote:

What's the true verdict however?

The official PRD is organized by book. You looked up "glitterdust" as printed in the Core Rulebook, which naturally doesn't include non-core classes.

If you check the Witch spell list in the Advanced Player's Guide, it lists glitterdust as a a spell.

So the short answer is that d20pfsrd.com is more likely to be correct.

[Legowaffles]

Gauss wrote:

Legowaffles,

VTT is a Virtual Tabletop. Examples are Roll20 (free) and D20Pro (not free).

None of the stuff he is asking about is 3rd party. They are all Paizo publications. As I mentioned, the PRD is not always kept up to date (and is sometimes inaccurate).

Huh, given all the games I play use Roll20, I would have thought I'd know that acronym.

I'm aware of both points. We posted at about the same time so I never saw your post till after I did.

I was more referring to his comment regarding D20pfsrd, which is in general (and my opinion), more accurate, than the PRD. It is far more frequently updated after all.

For example: Protection from Evil on the PRD appears to have not been updated since the CRB came out. Otherwise, it would note that Oracle, Inquisitor, and Summoner all get it as well.

[dragonhunterq]

Near as I can tell the PRD is not so much inaccurate as not compiled. It accurately reflects the books as printed (for the most part). PFSRD however compiles it all into one place, and reflects changes made to spells in later books. For example, the PRD hasn't retroactively changed the CRB spells that got upgraded to curses in ultimate magic, like bestow curse. PFSRD will show that bestow curse is in fact a curse. This can make PFSRD more useful.

EDITED because apparently multiple hyperlinks is harder than it looks...

[Ayanzo]

Gauss wrote:

APG p64: Glitterdust is on the Summoner's list.

APG p70: Glitterdust is on the Witch's list.
UM p13: Glitterdust is on the Magus list.
ACG p22: Glitterdust is on the Bloodrager list.

The PRD is not always up to date (or accurate...light spell). I always default to the books.

You're right, so is Orfamay. I was looking at the spell index section on both my PDF/Book (i own apg crb, um, uc physically) which only lists new spells not existing.

Thanks!

[Legowaffles]

dragonhunterq wrote:

Near as I can tell the PRD is not so much inaccurate as not compiled. It accurately reflects the books as printed (for the most part). PFSRD however compiles it all into one place, and reflects changes made to spells in later books. For example, the PRD hasn't retroactively changed the CRB spells that got upgraded to in ultimate magic, like bestow curse. PFSRD will show that bestow curse is in fact a curse. This can make PFSRD more useful.

This. This is what I was trying to say, and failing miserably at. Thank you.

[dragonhunterq]

Well, seeing as both you and Orfamay managed to post while I was faffing around with it it's unsurprising it came out almost alright - still noticed in my copy/pasting and juggling I'd deleted a bit and hadn't put it back in...