Hello
I was reading the Holy vindicator prestige class that benefits a lot from x3/x4 weapons at 10th lvl, and it made me want to make a scythe flurrying holy vindicator. Unfortunately i couldn't come up with anything viable because of the crusader's flurry feat prerequisites, but i really like the idea. The sacred fist wapriest archetype is a possibility but i don't think it works.
Do you think it's possible to make a scythe flurrying holy vindicator build? And if not, if a scythe flurrying build is viable at all?
What part of the crusader's flurry feat is the problem? Do you have a deity with the scythe Favored Weapon? There are a few.
Holy Vindicator already delays spellcasting, so why not just combine monk and cleric or warpriest? One level of monk gets you flurry and one level of cleric gets you channel.
For deities that would grant scythe proficiency: Jaidi, Magdh, and Svarozic are your non-evil choices.
But if i don't level up in monk the flurry of blows won't level up, won't it?
But if i don't level up in monk the flurry of blows won't level up, won't it?
Well, in order for Flurry of Blows to improve past what it does at level 1 you would need to be an 8th level monk (or 11th level unchained monk). I don't think you're going to be getting that if you're looking for 10 levels of a prestige class.
Probably best to just take 1 level in unchained monk (the bonus attack from flurry is your full BAB) and the rest in whatever divine spellcaster class you want.
I abandoned the idea of becoming holy vindicator so i'd just like to concentrate on the scythe flurrying aspect, with spell casting if possible.
I found this post that represents pretty well what i'd like to do. The problem is that it seems pretty flawed (for example it ignores the fact flurry of blow will stay lvl 1).
Making a scythe flurrying trickery domain cleric sounds awesome but cleric and monk seem to not synergize too well : armor proficiency, spell casting, flurry of blows...If you dip one level of cleric then that level becomes useless and just taken for the sake of prerequisites, but if you do the opposite, flurry of blows will be useless and so will crusader's flurry.
Any solutions?
I don't see how flurry is useless with one level of monk.
So dip one level of unchained monk, you have the following ability:
At 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action. When making a flurry of blows, the monk can make one additional attack at his highest base attack bonus. This additional attack stacks with the bonus attacks from haste and other similar effects. When using this ability, the monk can make these attacks with any combination of his unarmed strikes and weapons that have the monk special weapon quality.
Sure, you'll miss out on the level 11 upgrade of "a third attack at your highest base attack bonus when you full attack" but you are still getting an extra attack, which is nothing to scoff at.
An Unchained Monk 1/Cleric 4/Holy Vindicator 2 when full attacking flurries at +6/+6/+1. An Unchained Monk 1/Cleric 4/Holy Vindicator 10 flurries at +14/+14/+9/+4.
It all depends on what you really want. It's not hard to have a straight unMonk flurrying with a scythe (Versatile Design weapon modification + Ascetic Form), if that's the only goal.
If you want both advancing flurry and spellcasting, Sacred Fist is the way to go, but that's cFlurry with -2 to attack rolls and the further attacks at reduced BAB.
Something to consider about Holy Vindicator is that when you confirm a crit with an x4 weapon, the target will probably be dead, anyway.
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The OP said they gave up on Holy Vindicator.
A 1 level dip in Unchained Monk definitely does synergize with cleric, as both are Wisdom based. You don’t get flurry in armor, but you’ve got your wisdom bonus to AC to make up for that.
Don’t underestimate a free attack at full attack bonus and x1 1/2 STR. That’s better than two-Weapon fighting by a lot. You’ll never get more than 1 extra attack, but you’ll always be 1 attack ahead of where you would be otherwise.
Unless you want to go all Sacred Fist Warpriest, any crusader’s flurry build has to make a choice between being more caster or more martial, and either is going to have to sacrifice a little of one and a lot of the other. For a melee oriented cleric, setting casting back 1 level to get an extra attack is not that bad of a sacrifice.