| Derek the Ferret |
There is a trait called accelerated drinker designed specifically for that purpose.
Accelerated Drinker
Benefit:You may drink a potion as a move action instead of a standard action as long as you start your turn with the potion in your hand.A: It calls out potion (and nothing else, but that can be overruled)
B: It says move action not swift action. I was looking for swift action.
C: I want to be holding my two-handed weapon while doing this (gripping and regripping free actions)
| Derek the Ferret |
Alright. I really want to make a drunken brute barbarian that worships Cayden Cailean work. They get this ability:
Raging Drunk:
While raging, the drunken brute can drink a potion, or a tankard of ale or similar quantity of alcohol, as a move action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. A potion has its normal effect, while an alcoholic drink allows the barbarian to maintain her rage that round without expending a round of rage for the day (instead of the alcohol’s normal effects). For each alcoholic drink consumed while raging, the barbarian is nauseated for 1 round when her rage expires, in addition the normal fatigue that follows a rage. Tireless rage does not negate this nauseated condition but the internal fortitude rage power does.
I'm not sure how "you may drink as a move action" feats/traits would interact with this ability (such as the aforementioned accelerated drinker trait). Any thoughts?
@Scott Wilhelm
I've looked at potion glutton and the flavor prereq kills me. Unless you can get a GM to understand that something similar should exist for Cayden Cailean (or change the prereq) this wouldn't work for me.
@Knight Magenta
The Sipping Jacket only works once (during combat at least), and I want to drink, drink, and drink some more during combat.
| Rub-Eta |
You're asking for a swift action to make you not expend rage rounds = You're asking too much. I would never allow that, as a DM.
Also, you'll have to retrieve the alcoholic drink. That's a normaly a standard action, move action with a Handy Haversack and a swift action with Spring Loaded Wrist Sheaths.
Retrieve as a swift + drinking as a move is well good enough.
Any other trait/feat making you able to drink as a move action is a waste, since you already get it from the archetype.
| Derek the Ferret |
You're asking for a swift action to make you not expend rage rounds = You're asking too much. I would never allow that, as a DM.
Also, you'll have to retrieve the alcoholic drink. That's a normaly a standard action, move action with a Handy Haversack and a swift action with Spring Loaded Wrist Sheaths.Retrieve as a swift + drinking as a move is well good enough.
Any other trait/feat making you able to drink as a move action is a waste, since you already get it from the archetype.
With Quick Draw (which many GMs rule that it covers more than just weapons) and Potion Glutton I could do exactly what you're saying with the big problems being:
I want to worship Cayden Cailean, not Urgathoa.
Getting infinite alcohol (which isn't terribly difficult because magic items exist).
| thegreenteagamer |
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Pledge a fraternity. Downing a tankard in under two seconds is par for the course on most campuses. Usually it's more like ten in under twenty seconds, but I'm pretty sure that's about a swift action a drink, if you break it down.
In my experience, most frats have being an uncivilized barbarian with rage issues as a prerequisite for entry, anyway, so the fluff text is already there.
| Derek the Ferret |
If you multiclass with Drunken Master Monk, you can take Fast Drinker.
A: Monk and Barb alignment restictions don't allow them to multiclass (unless you have an obscure aasimar trait)
B: Multiclassing. Eh. The guy that I want to make most certainly does not have the patience to be a monk (also, see A)
C: The Fast Drinker feat requires 18 Con and should really be changed so that it works with the drunken brute barbarian anyways
| Derek the Ferret |
Pledge a fraternity. Downing a tankard in under two seconds is par for the course on most campuses. Usually it's more like ten in under twenty seconds, but I'm pretty sure that's about a swift action a drink, if you break it down.
In my experience, most frats have being an uncivilized barbarian with rage issues as a prerequisite for entry, anyway, so the fluff text is already there.
snorts a laugh
Not sure how my GM would feel about that...| Derek the Ferret |
Quick Draw wrote:Alchemical items, potions, scrolls, and wands cannot be drawn quickly using this feat.And since you can't take two swift actions the same round you'll have to spend at least one move as well to drink.
Are alcoholic beverages potions? No they aren't. I'm not looking to abuse potions here, just wanted some simple alcohol abuse.
| Derek the Ferret |
Oh, sorry.Quick Draw wrote:You can draw a weapon as a free actionI've never heard of alcoholic beverages being weapons. Though if you can convince your DM that a bottle containing alcohol counts as a weapon while a flask of acid doesn't, go ahead.
Well, my GM rules that Quick Draw applies to things other than just weapons (which includes alcohol). I mentioned this in my first reply to you.
| FarsanBaloo |
Derek an alternative which would enable you to drink each round and worship Cayden Cailean for all that sweet flavor is to pick up two weapon fighting and then pick up blade and tankard style through the Divine Fighting Technique feat. Its lets you trade in one of your attacks for a sip from your tankard, and the tankard is considered a weapon which would make it completely legal to quickdraw. If you dip a level in fighter you can trade in the shield proficiency for blade and tankard style and still have a free bonus feat. This would free up your swift to be used for other things as well.
| Emo Duck |
Rub-Eta wrote:Oh, sorry.Well, my GM rules that Quick Draw applies to things other than just weapons (which includes alcohol). I mentioned this in my first reply to you.Quick Draw wrote:You can draw a weapon as a free actionI've never heard of alcoholic beverages being weapons. Though if you can convince your DM that a bottle containing alcohol counts as a weapon while a flask of acid doesn't, go ahead.
Anything can be an improvised weapon, I suppose...
Still, it seems your GM is willing to give you a little wiggle room to make things work out. If he's otherwise on board with the mechanical effects you're going for, maybe try working with him to homebrew a feat or magic item that does what you want it to?
| Scott Wilhelm |
Derek an alternative which would enable you to drink each round and worship Cayden Cailean for all that sweet flavor is to pick up two weapon fighting and then pick up blade and tankard style through the Divine Fighting Technique feat. Its lets you trade in one of your attacks for a sip from your tankard, and the tankard is considered a weapon which would make it completely legal to quickdraw. If you dip a level in fighter you can trade in the shield proficiency for blade and tankard style and still have a free bonus feat. This would free up your swift to be used for other things as well.
My Alchemists have all just changed their religion.
| FarsanBaloo |
FarsanBaloo wrote:Derek an alternative which would enable you to drink each round and worship Cayden Cailean for all that sweet flavor is to pick up two weapon fighting and then pick up blade and tankard style through the Divine Fighting Technique feat. Its lets you trade in one of your attacks for a sip from your tankard, and the tankard is considered a weapon which would make it completely legal to quickdraw. If you dip a level in fighter you can trade in the shield proficiency for blade and tankard style and still have a free bonus feat. This would free up your swift to be used for other things as well.My Alchemists have all just changed their religion.
If you're heading down the potion path you will want to buy yourself a Cailean Fighting Tankard, it lets you store up to six different potions in your tankard :)
| FarsanBaloo |
You need a drinking buddy with the spirit share spell. No action drinking.
Very interesting, I think I've got a great drinking buddy for you:
Drunken Brute Barbarian with VMC Wizard --> Improved Familiar --> Faerie Dragon who casts spells like a 3rd lvl sorcerer
If you take the teleportation school you could swift action teleport 3 +INT times a day in lvl 7 as well.
Im not sure how many liquids a Faerie Dragon would be able to have on its person though.
| Scott Wilhelm |
baggageboy wrote:You need a drinking buddy with the spirit share spell. No action drinking.Very interesting, I think I've got a great drinking buddy for you:
Drunken Brute Barbarian with VMC Wizard --> Improved Familiar --> Faerie Dragon who casts spells like a 3rd lvl sorcerer
If you take the teleportation school you could swift action teleport 3 +INT times a day in lvl 7 as well.
Im not sure how many liquids a Faerie Dragon would be able to have on its person though.
Eldritch Guardian Fighters get a Familiar that automatically knows all the Combat Feats you know