Casmaron Resources & Brainstorming


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


I thought Casmaron should have a thread as well. sense i didn't see one.

From what little i know of Casmaron themes include
ancient Persia,ottoman empire,ancient greece,india,
Alexander the Great's Macedonia,old russia,The Novgorod Republic
the Baltic region,East europe, the middle East and so on.

Paizo Employee Developer

I don't fully remember if I outright said it in the text, but the Usij originally came to the Inner Sea from Casmaron. When they came to the Inner Sea they brought worship of Ahriman and interactions with divs.


Is Vudra considered part of Casmaron, or is it sort of it's own separate continent?

I.E. if a gazetteer for Casmaron were ever done, would Vudra be in it, or would it be its own thing?


MMCJawa wrote:

Is Vudra considered part of Casmaron, or is it sort of it's own separate continent?

I.E. if a gazetteer for Casmaron were ever done, would Vudra be in it, or would it be its own thing?

I think is a part of Casmaron.


I hope some of the Greek gods show up if a Casmaron gazetteer is made.

Top of the list is Zeus, Apollo, Poseidon, Eros, Pan, Hades, Hera, Athena.(for me anyway)


I would like to see ormazd and the Ahuras and yazatas added to the setting.

Since we already have Ahriman and the divs.


Yazata = Azata. They dropped the "Y" first letter to keep it so that all the good outsider races kept the "start with a A" trend.


MMCJawa wrote:
Yazata = Azata. They dropped the "Y" first letter to keep it so that all the good outsider races kept the "start with a A" trend.

Oh! i did not see that at all.


So what do we know already about Casmaron?

A good chunk of the continent is dominated by the Kelesh Empire and Vudra

Presumably there are various satrapies of the former, who would have their own "entry" in any gazeteer.

Other nations previously mentioned are Kaladay (founded by Tiens), Iobaria (which has been pretty well described already), Karash (ruled by horselords), and Vudra (which is the "Indian subcontinent" of Golarion).

There are also the Windswept Wastes, which are quasi-autonomous, and Iblydos, which once was the seat of a massive empire, but which I an uncertain still exists in some form or not. (I think it does, although obviously confined only to its original archipelago of islands).

Finally there are multiple lost empires, with Ninshabur probably the most well known, and is now only populated by undead (maybe?). Other known lost nations/city-states include Kaskari and Yenchabur.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Iblydos is a current country, not sure if that is in print or not. But I got it out of a developer at one point.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

The only gods we know for sure is in Casmaron are Sarenrae and Irori. Based on the Inner Sea gods that are in Tian Xia, I would expect Abadar, Desna, Lamashtu, Pharasma, and Shelyn to also be worshiped there.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
xavier c wrote:

I hope some of the Greek gods show up if a Casmaron gazetteer is made.

Top of the list is Zeus, Apollo, Poseidon, Eros, Pan, Hades, Hera, Athena.(for me anyway)

I am a bit torn on this as there are some that would work as an easy switch out.

Ares - Gorum
Apollo - Sarenrae
Hades - Pharasma
Echidna - Lamashtu
Zeus and Posideon - Gozreh

Not sure if I want to see the gods of greece as reinterpretation, servants of those gods, or as a pantheon on to itself.


Justin Franklin wrote:
xavier c wrote:

I hope some of the Greek gods show up if a Casmaron gazetteer is made.

Top of the list is Zeus, Apollo, Poseidon, Eros, Pan, Hades, Hera, Athena.(for me anyway)

I am a bit torn on this as there are some that would work as an easy switch out.

Ares - Gorum
Apollo - Sarenrae
Hades - Pharasma
Echidna - Lamashtu
Zeus and Posideon - Gozreh

Not sure if I want to see the gods of greece as reinterpretation, servants of those gods, or as a pantheon on to itself.

I am not a fan of doing that. As i would like them to do something like with what they did with the Osirian Pantheon . maybe make the Greek gods a Iblydos sub-region Pantheon.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber
xavier c wrote:
Justin Franklin wrote:
xavier c wrote:

I hope some of the Greek gods show up if a Casmaron gazetteer is made.

Top of the list is Zeus, Apollo, Poseidon, Eros, Pan, Hades, Hera, Athena.(for me anyway)

I am a bit torn on this as there are some that would work as an easy switch out.

Ares - Gorum
Apollo - Sarenrae
Hades - Pharasma
Echidna - Lamashtu
Zeus and Posideon - Gozreh

Not sure if I want to see the gods of greece as reinterpretation, servants of those gods, or as a pantheon on to itself.

I am not a fan of doing that. As i would like them to do something like with what they did with the Osirian Pantheon . maybe make the Greek gods a Iblydos sub-region Pantheon.

My question for that though becomes why are all of these gods coming from Earth to Golarion. As a once in awhile thing cool, but if ever area we go to just gets the gods from Earth that would be a little weird.

The other thing that makes that weird is that the Greek Gods are one of the pantheons that are often modeled after for any sort of pantheon. (You can't tell me Shelyn isn't modeled on Aphrodite). The Egyptian one is pretty distinct that way. Definitely something to think about.

Anyone else have any thoughts?


Actually, in the case of the "Osirian" deities, they went from Golarion to Earth (not the other way way around).

Scarab Sages

Ninshabur's ruins are in the Windswept Wastes, particularly at the Pit of Gormuz. Mythic Realms gives some info regarding the environs around the Pit. Not much on the continent itself, but does give a bit of info about the North Central Casmaron region which now is a demon and cultist wracked wasteland.

Its hard for me to visualize Casmaron, particularly since the only map we have of it is the "Stolen Map" that has the rough outline of the world, and Casmaron is waaaaay smaller than the books describe. Per that map, the bulk of Casmaron is like 1.5x Avistan, with a Tiny Vudra the size of Razmiran dangling off one end.

Here's hoping Feb '16 AP is Casmaron and that at PaizoCon they'll announce a Christmas Casmaron hardback.


Wonder what map that is...the ones I am seeing floating around on google images seem to indicate that Casmaron is far larger than the Inner Sea region.

Scarab Sages

http://paizo.com/image/content/PathfinderCampaignSetting/PZO9226-StolenMap. jpg

Casmaron on this map is mostly a sea , then an avistan sized peninsula and a narrow chute e and n of the sea. Assuming the s most tip of casmaron that juts into the sea is vudra.


Remember, the map is not drawn to scale, and it's implied that almost everything south of the Castrovin Sea aside from Vudra belongs to the Kelesh Empire, which is a lot of land. It's easily enough to make Kelesh bigger than Taldor, Cheliax, Andoran, and Galt put together.


archmagi1 wrote:

http://paizo.com/image/content/PathfinderCampaignSetting/PZO9226-StolenMap. jpg

Casmaron on this map is mostly a sea , then an avistan sized peninsula and a narrow chute e and n of the sea. Assuming the s most tip of casmaron that juts into the sea is vudra.

Land area wise this still looks pretty large, and larger than Avistan. In fact, I would say the area north of that lake and to the east is probably equivalent in land area to Avistan proper. It's not as big as, say...Tian, but larger than the Inner Sea region.

And yeah, I think we should consider all these unmapped continents as only "rough sketches" until we actually get gazeteers

I don't think Vudra is necessarily the southern tip of that continent, but probably starts further north.


b

The Exchange

Adam Daigle wrote:
I don't fully remember if I outright said it in the text, but the Usij originally came to the Inner Sea from Casmaron. When they came to the Inner Sea they brought worship of Ahriman and interactions with divs.

Are there plans in the next two years to do an Innersea Guide for either Casmaron or Arcadia?

Paizo Employee Developer

No plans at the moment, but who knows what lies ahead.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Lost Omens Campaign Setting / General Discussion / Casmaron Resources & Brainstorming All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.
Recent threads in General Discussion