Jacob Kellogg
RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32
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Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8
aka Jiggy
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| Brian J. Fruzen RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16 , Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8 |
| Jeff Lee |
It is remarkable how many items seem to be attempts to circumvent bad GMing.
It's interesting that you mention that. Last year, there were a lot of items that were designed to assist in a very specific set of circumstances, which most adventuring parties don't find themselves in often. I wondered if these were people looking at design from the standpoint of a player that really hated certain situations that--due to their GM--they found themselves in often.
Speaks to the need to step outside of the role of player or GM when it comes to design.
Hidari
Star Voter Season 8
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Took care of more wedding stuff, just ate, baby geek kicking up a storm so back to voting while re-watching LOTR <3
Peek, not peak. I get a lot of staves, like now, staff vs staff.
Looking forward to seeing my item. I don't think I stand much chance as a first timer. My formatting is correct, hope I got it all right. But at least it's not a part of this year's cliches and repeats.
btw. thnx Thunderfrog!
| Jeff Lee |
I really hate to see a good item where the author has missed an important detail in the mechanics. Sometimes its as simple as not assigning a DC. Other times its a new feature where the mechanics just aren't fully explained, and I get left wondering "Yes, but what happens under this circumstance, or if this comes up?"
| frank gori RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka GM_Solspiral |
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| Jeff Lee |
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I feel kind of bad that I'm starting to be disinclined to vote for perfectly fine items just because they're part of trends I keep seeing. Like, it's not really the designer's fault that umpteen other people like portals too.
That's why it's important to focus on that fact that, where the vote is concerned, only those two items on the screen exist, for all intents and purposes. Your only question at that moment should be: Which of these two is the better item?
| Jacob Trier RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 |
| nkerklaan Star Voter Season 8 |
nkerklaan wrote:I feel kind of bad that I'm starting to be disinclined to vote for perfectly fine items just because they're part of trends I keep seeing. Like, it's not really the designer's fault that umpteen other people like portals too.That's why it's important to focus on that fact that, where the vote is concerned, only those two items on the screen exist, for all intents and purposes. Your only question at that moment should be: Which of these two is the better item?
You're right, that's good advice. I'll try to do that more going forward.
| Jensen Toperzer Star Voter Season 8 aka TealDeer |
Pricing is all over the place. Might as well be random.
Personally, pricing is my least favorite part of magic item creation, because a lot of the so-called "calculation" is in fact a giant pain in the ass, especially for items that AREN'T just spells-in-a-can. It's probably the hardest bit for a new GM.
This is exacerbated by the fact that in my usual gaming circles, magic items are rare, not the sort of thing you buy, and usually more "I thought this weird-ass thing would be cool" than "hey this is useful."
Jacob Kellogg
RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32
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Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8
aka Jiggy
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James Casey
RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16
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Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8
aka Jrcmarine
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I really hate to see a good item where the author has missed an important detail in the mechanics. Sometimes its as simple as not assigning a DC. Other times its a new feature where the mechanics just aren't fully explained, and I get left wondering "Yes, but what happens under this circumstance, or if this comes up?"
$10 says that's my item, Jeff.
Thomas LeBlanc
RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32
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Champion Voter Season 6, Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Champion Voter Season 9
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If a Google search tells me your item contains a proper noun that is a WoW character or similar homemade name, you aren't getting my vote. Pathfinder doesn't use PC/NPC names and I like that, a lot.
Using deities, demigods, outsiders, creatures, places, organizations, religions, and et cetera for Golarion is fine. Many outstanding items this year have done so!
| Jeff Lee |
Jeff Lee wrote:I really hate to see a good item where the author has missed an important detail in the mechanics. Sometimes its as simple as not assigning a DC. Other times its a new feature where the mechanics just aren't fully explained, and I get left wondering "Yes, but what happens under this circumstance, or if this comes up?"$10 says that's my item, Jeff.
I've seen several so far that fit this category. Again, I'm chalking it up to the relatively short time period that was allowed for design.
Jacob Kellogg
RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32
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Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8
aka Jiggy
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A lot of items that claim in the description to be made from a specific part of a specific creature, but don't list that thing in the crafting requirements.
You're not supposed to list physical materials in the Construction Requirements; do you see any such materials in any published magic items?
Deadmanwalking
Star Voter Season 8
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I really hate to see a good item where the author has missed an important detail in the mechanics. Sometimes its as simple as not assigning a DC. Other times its a new feature where the mechanics just aren't fully explained, and I get left wondering "Yes, but what happens under this circumstance, or if this comes up?"
Not just in otherwise good items, but I've noted a distinct trend in items not having a duration for abilities they provide, making said abilities conditional, but permanent...which is clearly not their intent.
So...those items got downvotes, and putting in a duration is important folks, don't forget about it.
James Casey
RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16
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Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8
aka Jrcmarine
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nkerklaan wrote:A lot of items that claim in the description to be made from a specific part of a specific creature, but don't list that thing in the crafting requirements.You're not supposed to list physical materials in the Construction Requirements; do you see any such materials in any published magic items?
SERVED!
| nkerklaan Star Voter Season 8 |
nkerklaan wrote:A lot of items that claim in the description to be made from a specific part of a specific creature, but don't list that thing in the crafting requirements.You're not supposed to list physical materials in the Construction Requirements; do you see any such materials in ANY published magic items?
Oh, my bad then. I thought maybe when physical materials were things like monster parts that they'd have to be listed. I blame not having played Pathfinder in awhile.
| Jacob Trier RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8 |
| Castarr4 Star Voter Season 8 |
A lot of items that claim in the description to be made from a specific part of a specific creature, but don't list that thing in the crafting requirements.
Is that supposed to be in there? I was under the impression that Flame Tongue didn't have "a masterwork iron longsword" in its crafting requirements, even though it's heavily implied that you need a masterwork iron longsword to make a Flame Tongue.
Edit: I got ninja-ed quite heavily there.
| Anthony Adam Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 |
| nkerklaan Star Voter Season 8 |
nkerklaan wrote:A lot of items that claim in the description to be made from a specific part of a specific creature, but don't list that thing in the crafting requirements.Is that supposed to be in there? I was under the impression that Flame Tongue didn't have "a masterwork iron longsword" in its crafting requirements, even though it's heavily implied that you need a masterwork iron longsword to make a Flame Tongue.
No, I was just confused. I just thought if the material was something outside of the standard of what you'd normally need a craft a thing of that type, that it had to be listed, but I was wrong.
Sorry, everyone! FWIW I haven't down-voted anyone based on that.
James Casey
RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16
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Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8
aka Jrcmarine
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| Castarr4 Star Voter Season 8 |
Tortoise armor shouldn't be made of sea turtles.
Toad-skin gloves shouldn't be made of frogs.
Dogs and wolves. House cats and bobcats. Alligators and Crocodiles. Zebras and horses. African and Asian elephants (although I'm not sure how you'd refer to them in Golarion). Certain animals are commonly thought of as interchangeable, but aren't. Don't name your item after one animal and then make it out of another.
Bbauzh ap Aghauzh
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Jeff Lee wrote:I really hate to see a good item where the author has missed an important detail in the mechanics. Sometimes its as simple as not assigning a DC. Other times its a new feature where the mechanics just aren't fully explained, and I get left wondering "Yes, but what happens under this circumstance, or if this comes up?"Not just in otherwise good items, but I've noted a distinct trend in items not having a duration for abilities they provide, making said abilities conditional, but permanent...which is clearly not their intent.
So...those items got downvotes, and putting in a duration is important folks, don't forget about it.
This is not necessarily true. Ring of invisibility doesn't have a duration listed, but it does have a duration.
| Kalervo Oikarinen RPG Superstar 2014 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8 |
| Jarrett Sigler RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka Tothric |
Some of these spelling errors are starting to really make me laugh. I can't mention my latest run-in because it's in the name of the item.
I'm starting to get a little nervous. The ambiguity of the comments in this thread (Although absolutely necessary) is a good encouragement when I think they could be talking about my item.
But now that I hear that a bottom 25% will be pruned...it's a little nerve-wracking.
I've had a pit crew of 9 people go over my item, all of them english majors, editors, or techincal writers, as spelling is my single weakest skill.
I'm really nervous that is my item your talking about.
Thomas LeBlanc
RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32
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Champion Voter Season 6, Champion Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Champion Voter Season 9
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Thanks, but I don't need hyperlinks to feats and spells that are in the Core Rulebook. I'm pretty sure I have most of those down. The judges are probably okay without them too.
Maybe they were referencing the PRD when creating the item? I haven't seen too many that did that yet, but those that have seem to follow the template. Still waiting to see if anyone makes a link that goes to the d20PFSRD, Archives of Nethys, or another 3rd party site...
Wren Brown
RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16
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Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9
aka Rusty Ironpants
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Jacob Kellogg
RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32
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Marathon Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8
aka Jiggy
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