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While I see no reason for it to not be greater invisibility, ultimately I believe the distinction is irrelevant. Either a) you're unconcious, or b) have to concentrate to direct the illusions*. In either case, you're unable to attack anything.
* Yes, I do realize that the ring doesn't specify that you must concentrate, it is a reasonable assumption that you would have to do so; and no, I don't have to house rule it to make it this way**. The assumption can be found within the rules.
** It saddens*** me that I have to even make such a disclaimer in the first place.
*** No, I'm not really sad. It's just a figure of speech.
Isnt that beign selective? If you add a line of "you need to concentrate to mantain the illusions" it would mean the illusions wouldnt function while you are unconcious. Effectively you would need to assume "you need to concentrate to mantain the illusions unless you are uncconcious in which case you dont have to". Thats quite a lot of assumption.
It would be more sensible to assume you dont need concentration at all. Probably this is what anybody who reads the ring assumes at first sight anyway.
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What he's saying is that the "default" setting of the ring, requiring no concentration, is that the images run away. It will do this even if you are unconscious. If you want them to do something different, like do a Can-Can line, that requires mental effort on your part.
Yeah i got what he meant, however im pointing that asuming that there is a "default" for the ring then there is an instance where you dont need to concentrate, hence you you can do everyhting you want while invisible
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No. My assumption is that the base effect is that the images run away. So, if you're unconscious, that's what they'll do. If you want them to do something different, you'll have to actively make them do something different.It's not clear to me that you have any control over the duplicates at all.
four illusory duplicates that either run off in opposite directions or perform other plausible actions that could draw enemy attention away from her.They go do distracting things on their own is how I interpret that. There's no hint that you control them or that you could make them do anything more practical.
Either way, since you don't have to concentrate it doesn't keep you from attacking anything.
I can see this too, and don't think there is really anything wrong with that either. Well, other than that the first round is spent withdrawing, so you'd only get two rounds of attacking while invisible.
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Saving Throws and Illusions (Disbelief): Creatures encountering an illusion usually do not receive saving throws to recognize it as illusory until they study it carefully or interact with it in some fashion.
Interacting with a illusion isn't "I see something, so I am interacting with it.", it require to touch it, try to converse with it or do some other action that interact with the single illusion, like striking one of the doubles created by mirror image.
"How strange, 4 copies of the same dude." don't allow you to disbelieve one or more of the images. You know that some are copies but unless you carefully study them you have no way to chose what you want to disbelieve.
And no, you don't disbelieve all the images at once with a single saving throw. You must study or interact with each one. It is possible to study all of them at the same time but there is that "carefully" clause and studying carefully four guys going in four different directions isn't easy. I would require a save for each image as a minimum, possibly even ask for a perception check.
Illusions are always hard to judge as sometime studying them carefully should be enough to give a bonus to the save, some other time it would be the minimum clause to get the save.
To make an example:
- an illusionary door on a real wall: a careful examination should give a bonus to noticing that it is an illusion;
- a real door covered by an illusion that make it appear as a wall: careful studying the wall is the minimum to get a chance to save.
Essentially, from my point of view, sometime a careful examination of a illusion should count as someone communicating to you that what you are studying is an illusion.
A failed saving throw indicates that a character fails to notice something is amiss. A character faced with proof that an illusion isn't real needs no saving throw. If any viewer successfully disbelieves an illusion and communicates this fact to others, each such viewer gains a saving throw with a +4 bonus.