I started a thread about the Technology Guide here http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rl0i?Technology-guide-question#28
I said on it I'd post the build.
artificer8/renegade mastermaker2/artificer1/green star adept9
1 feat: exotic weapon proficiency(firearms)
human bonus feat: extraordinary artisan -25% cost
flaw: feat: gunsmithing
flaw: feat: exceptional artisan -25% time
trait: awakened from stasis, only needs 2 hours of sleep a night/day
trait: deft dodger +1 reflex
2 bonus feat: scribe scroll
3 feat: skill focus(UMD)
bonus feat: brew potion trade out feat: weapon focus(gun)
bonus feat: improved critical
4 bonus feat: craft wondrous item
5 bonus feat: craft technological(magic/trade) arms and armor
feat: point blank shot
trait: hedge magician, -5% cost to crafting
7 bonus feat: craft wand
feat: technologist
8 bonus feat: craft cybertech
9 feat: precise shot
11 bonus feat: craft rod
feat: craft technological item
13 feat: weapon specialization(gun)
15 feat: improved toughness
17 feat: insightful reflexes or lightning reflexes
19 feat:
How does it look so far? If you have any questions and/or suggestions, let me know. As an artificer, he is adept at creating mechanical things which fits the flavor of a ironman/cyborg character. With reneage mastermaker, he starts the process of augmenting his body with cybernetic implants. This build makes it so he gains all of the benefits of being a construct without the weaknesses.
No one has any suggestions?
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I don't want to sound ungrateful for your taking the time to put your thoughts here, but I suspect the lack of interest comes from you using 3rd Party stuff. My guess is that most of the people who visit Pathfinder Advice are primarily interested in Paizo-Pathfinder stuff (not to say that there aren't those who like 3rd party).
You could try posting this in Compatible Products From Other Publishers.
Otherwise, give it a few more days and I'm sure someone will provide you with an opinion about your build.
I don't want to sound ungrateful for your taking the time to put your thoughts here, but I suspect the lack of interest comes from you using 3rd Party stuff. My guess is that most of the people who visit Pathfinder Advice are primarily interested in Paizo-Pathfinder stuff (not to say that there aren't those who like 3rd party).
You could try posting this in Compatible Products From Other Publishers.
Otherwise, give it a few more days and I'm sure someone will provide you with an opinion about your build.
Actually, none of it is 3rd party. Since pathfinder is technically d&d 3.75, most of what I use is 3.5 since 3.5 is more flushed out than pathfinder is insofar. Paizo used to be part of the 3.5 system so it is still technically part of paizo i.e. pathfinder canon. Now if paizo does eventually get enough material in new books to include enough for me to make characters with only pathfinder stuff, then I'd leave 3.5 behind. As is, I use both since both are canon.
Just curious though, do you yourself have any suggestions on changes or whatnot to make the cyborg build better? I don't want him to be an android, since that is a total construct. That's why I built it as a human that slowly incorporates more and more cybernetics until he becomes a cyborg. Human with cybernetic parts.
Unfortunately your conclusion is based on false premises. Pathfinder is NOT D+D 3.75, 3.5, or any version of D+D altogether. It is it's own system, based partly on mechanics used under the Open Game License, and on mechanics invented from Paizo under the same terms.Only paizo products count as first party. Products produced by WOTC are as much third party as those from SGG.
Not really, since Paizo was part of TSR during many of the books in 3.5, and indeed even made dragon magazine. This is why pathfinder is so close to 3.5 because it was taken directly from it and altered by Paizo since they had the legal ability to do so(since they were part of it originally anyway). Pathfinder is called 3.75 simply because it is a slight update to 3.5. Obviously it's not the official term, but that's what every old school player calls it that I've ever met. Yes, Pathfinder is it's own system, but as I've said, it's not fleshed out enough as 3.5 was. Since the systems are near mirrored, and both were part of Paizo at one time, they're used interchangeably by most of the players I've seen.
Instead of arguing about that, you might refer to why I was asking for advice in the first place. If a book is used by Paizo that would help me flesh out the character concept I have, please let me know. That's the whole point of why I made this thread.
Critics to Pathfinder called it D&D 3.75, however, neither the fans or Paizo Publishing ever considered this the case. Pathfinder is its own thing, although it is derived from 3.5, after the Core, all subsequent publications have no connection to 3.5. Calling it 3.75 is actually an insult, and not a term that Pathfinder gamers ever use.
The artificer doesn't exist in PF, nor does any of the other classes you list in that build above. So asking for a critique by Paizo board members is not likely to illicit a response. Try using Pathfinder based classes and we might have something to discuss.
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i consider pathfinder to be D&D 3.75 and because of it, try to slip 3.5 conversions and the like.
Not really, since Paizo was part of TSR during many of the books in 3.5, and indeed even made dragon magazine.
Paizo was never part of TSR. It was spun off from the Wizards of the Coast periodicals department. When paizo produced Dragon and Dungeon, it did so under license, not as part of WotC. Pathfinder, as a brand, was started when that license was terminated.
This is why pathfinder is so close to 3.5 because it was taken directly from it and altered by Paizo since they had the legal ability to do so(since they were part of it originally anyway).
Anyone had the 'legal ability to do so', under the terms of the Open Game License. There are other games that did the same.
Pathfinder is called 3.75 simply because it is a slight update to 3.5.
I've seen it referred to as such, or as 3.P or whateve, but hte fact is that Pathfinder is its own game. Paizo doesn't advertise it as '3.75'.
3.0 and 3.5 material is third-party for Pathfinder, every bit as much as something from Green Ronin or Dreamscarred Press.
This thread belongs in either Compatible Products or Conversions.
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Early on, however, Paizo did essentially advertise Pathfinder as 3.5.
It should also be noted that Pathfinder has its own standards different from 3.5e since they're both different (though compatible) games. What might be acceptable or balanced in 3.5e is not necessarily so in PF.