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I have my own opinion on this, but I don't know if it is the CORRECT opinion or not, so I wanted to see what other people are thinking.
The question is how does Jirelle's reroll ability interact (if at all) with a weapon that also allows a reroll?
Scenario 1:
Jirelle is using a whip in combat. I can't recall if the whip has swashbuckling on its own but it's easy for the check to have it anyway (either through an ally or eye patch) -- so Jirelle's reroll ability is available.
You roll the dice and fail.
Jirelle allows you to reroll one die, but you must take the result.
The whip allows you to reroll the check, but you must take the result.
Are both of these powers usable, or does one prohibit the other from being used?
i.e.
If Jirelle uses her ability to reroll just one die, and still fails -
Can she still discard the whip to reroll the entire check?
If so, does she reroll ALL the dice (as the whip would normally do), or must she keep the one that she rerolled using her ability (since she must take that result)?
Or because she can no longer reroll ALL of the dice, can she no longer use the whip's discard ability?
Similarly if she uses the whip ability first to reroll all the dice, can she still use her ability on that reroll - or are the dice 'frozen'?
Scenario 2:
Jirelle uses Brine's Sting in combat - which allows the same one die reroll as her own ability.
How do these interact?
Can she reroll the same die twice?
Must both rerolls be done at the same time? Or can she reroll one die using one power, and if she still fails reroll a DIFFERENT die with the other ability?
Csouth is right - after a second roll is made, you're stuck with what's there.
Check out this thread, in which Vic responds to similiar questions:
(Hehe, I just pulled a Hawkmoon XD )
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Thanks for the link Orbis- I looked for similar questions but hadn't found that thread.
So it basically is what I thought for scenario 1.
Scenario 2 was where I was less certain - where the weapon only allows a reroll of a single die similar to Jirelle's own power.
It's sort of a question of what does "must take the second result" mean.
Does it mean the result of the check, or the result of the die?
Based on Vic's comment - it's for the check not the die (which was NOT my original interpretation, but it was something I considered).
Thanks for the link Orbis- I looked for similar questions but hadn't found that thread.
So it basically is what I thought for scenario 1.
Scenario 2 was where I was less certain - where the weapon only allows a reroll of a single die similar to Jirelle's own power.
It's sort of a question of what does "must take the second result" mean.
Does it mean the result of the check, or the result of the die?
Based on Vic's comment - it's for the check not the die (which was NOT my original interpretation, but it was something I considered).
Yup, any reroll at all of anything related to the first roll is the second result. Whether it's one die or the whole set of dice, after any of them are rerolled you're stuck with what you've got.