twentieth level character with BaB 27 (For CMB)


Rules Questions

Lantern Lodge

So, trying to fine tune a grappling barbarian build, and I noticed something peculiar with the Rage Prophet and Oracle:

Oracle wrote:
Maneuver Mastery (Ex): Select one type of combat maneuver. When performing the selected maneuver, you treat your oracle level as your base attack bonus (plus the BAB from other classes) when determining your CMB. At 7th level, you gain the Improved feat (such as Improved Trip) that grants you a bonus when performing that maneuver. At 11th level, you gain the Greater feat (such as Greater Trip) that grants you a bonus when performing that maneuver. You do not need to meet the prerequisites to receive these feats.
Rage Prophet wrote:
Savage Seer: A rage prophet's class level stacks with barbarian levels for determining the effect of rage powers, and with oracle levels for determining the effect of oracle revelations and his oracle's curse. This does not grant additional abilities.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, a 1 oracle, 9 barbarian, 10 rage prophet will have a BaB of 27 when calculating CMB for one maneuver. Is this correct, or is there some rule I've missed?


Oracle mysteries seem to allow for a lot of weird stuff, especially since there are some favored class bonuses that allow you to count as a higher level when determining the abilities of one revelation.


Just like you don't factor in the bab from oracle levels, you don't factor in the bab from rage prophet levels -- 1 oracle +10 rage prophet = 11 effective bab +9 barbarian = 20 total.


I disagree with Trekkie's interpretation as Rage Prophet states it stacks when determining the effect of revelations, not that the Rage prophet also counts as Oracle levels. However, I am not sure if Maneuver Mastery is a legal revelation to be modified by either Rage Prophet or any of those favored class bonuses. I just keep reading that "treat your oracle level" as not actually being something that is a stat in the revelation.

So essentially, the result is close to what Trekkie said, but I believe so for different reasons.


That reminds me of level 30 animal companion thread.

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