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Has anybody played this prestige class ?? If so, what was the character build and how well did it work?
Funny enough, Dragon Disciples are really good as paladins... 1 Sorc/4 Paladin.
Something like this:
Shiilard, Sorcerer 5/Dragon Disciple 7 (CR 12)
CN Medium Humanoid (human)
Init +5; Senses Perception +15, blindsense 30 ft.
DEFENSE
AC 24, touch 13, flat-footed 21 ( +3 Dex, +4 armor, +7 natural armor)
hp 136 (4d6+7d12+71);
Fort +9 (5), Ref +6(3), Will +8(8)
Special Defenses Resist Acid 10
OFFENSE
Speed 30 ft., 90 ft flight (average)
Melee arcane strike +1 longspear +16/+11 (1d8+16)
arcane strike 2 claws, 1 bite +16 (1d6+12 + 1d6)
Ranged touch +10
Special Attacks Claws and Bite 9/day, breath weapon (DC 22, 16d6, 30 ft. cone) 2/day, Form of the Dragon I 1/day, Wings 90ft, +1 per die to acid damage spells.
Sorcerer Spells Known (CL 12th; concentration +18/+22)
1st Level (8) - Mage Armor*, Shield, Magic Missile, Frostbite, Corrosive Touch, Protection vs Good.
2nd Level (8) - Resist Energy*, Mirror Image, See invisibility, Acid Arrow, Alter Self.
3rd Level (7) - Fly*, Heroism, Sugesstion, Slow.
4rd Level (6) - Fear*, Dragon’s Breath, Enervation.
5rd Level (4) - Spell Resistance*, Teleport
STATISTICS
Str 26(22), Dex 17(13), Con 18(14), Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 22(18)
Base Atk +7; CMB +15; CMD 29.
Feats Power Attack, Intensify Spell, Extra Traits (Magical Knack, Reactionary), Combat Reflexes, Arcane Strike, Tougness, Combat Casting, Schew Materials, Quicken Spell, BlindFight.
Skills (48) Know(Arcana) +10(6), Use Magic Device +15(6), Fly +16(10), Spellcraft +16(12), Perception +15 (12), Bluff +10(1), Intimidate +10(1).
Languages Common, Draconic.
SQ Draconic Bloodline (Green)
Gear (101k) Amulet of Mighty Fists +1 (4k), Longspear +1 (2k), Robe of Arcane Heritage (16k), Belt of Physical Perfection +4 (64k), Headband of Alluring Charisma +4 (16k)
Currently playing a paladin4/sorcerer1/dragon disciple2.
Because of the focus on martial levels he's more of a magic knight that can self-buff, and less of a caster. Switches between two handed sword or sword and board as the situation calls for. Best spell so far is enlarge person, vut he doesn't really cast much spells. More in it for the bonuses (ac, d12 hit dice, strebght boost).
Don't know how he plays if you focus more on the caster side of things, but I've read it's wirthwhile.
most important part to remember is that you are a hybrid class: not quite a caster, not quite a warrior. But you have aspects of both; spellcasting, high hp, ac boosts, str boosts, several thematic abilities abd tricks - and eventually the ability to change into a dragon.
It's a lot of fun abd very thematic.
I love my Sorc->Dragon Disciple with Paladin Dip...
Interestingly enough, speaking of gnarly combos, bloodrager 1/arcanist (blade adept) 3/skald 1/dragon disciple 4/arcanist +3 (to pick up Eldritch Blade)/eldritch knight 8 can be a handful in melee with the right exploits (loses a bit of spellcasting for it, though; "only" 8th-level spells at 20th level)...
I have always been fond of Barb 2/Sorc 3/ DD X.
The Barb rage power is Lesser Fiend Totem for a gore attack. By the time you get to DD you have 2 claw attacks, a bite attack, and a gore attack. Wear armor for a decent AC and take Arcane Armor Training for the few times you will be casting in combat. Select your spells accordingly.
that Arcanist that can take bloodlines is a fun idea.
I wonder how the arcanist interacts with DD....
Technically the pre-reqs for the class specifically state:
"Must be able to cast 1st level arcane spells without preperation"
This is important because this is not the same as
"Must be able to spontaniously cast 1st level arcane spells"
I wonder how the arcanist interacts with DD....
Technically the pre-reqs for the class specifically state:
"Must be able to cast 1st level arcane spells without preperation"
This is important because this is not the same as
"Must be able to spontaniously cast 1st level arcane spells"
well the arcanist counts her arcanist level as sorcerer levels for bloodline abilities and unlocking, sorta. SO i think they stack.
also, it seems pretty easy to meet the requirements as a arcanist.
I wonder how the arcanist interacts with DD....
Technically the pre-reqs for the class specifically state:
"Must be able to cast 1st level arcane spells without preperation"
This is important because this is not the same as
"Must be able to spontaniously cast 1st level arcane spells"
well the arcanist counts her arcanist level as sorcerer levels for bloodline abilities and unlocking, sorta. SO i think they stack.
also, it seems pretty easy to meet the requirements as a arcanist.
Well the issue is more if Arcanist can even meet the Pre-Req without dipping into Sorcerer.
Personally I would say, technically, no.
I wonder how the arcanist interacts with DD....
Technically the pre-reqs for the class specifically state:
"Must be able to cast 1st level arcane spells without preperation"
This is important because this is not the same as
"Must be able to spontaniously cast 1st level arcane spells"
well the arcanist counts her arcanist level as sorcerer levels for bloodline abilities and unlocking, sorta. SO i think they stack.
also, it seems pretty easy to meet the requirements as a arcanist.
Well the issue is more if Arcanist can even meet the Pre-Req without dipping into Sorcerer.
Personally I would say, technically, no.
oh yeah quick study looks like it works differently than I thought.
Yeah... If the Prestige Class was worded:
Able to Spontaniously cast 1st level spells
That would be awesome because technically they do spontaniously CAST spells...
But at the same time they also PREPARE spell which would preclude them fromDD due to the wording os
Able to cast 1st level arcane spells without preperation.
granted, the wording was effectively the same at the time of the release of the DD due to anything like the Arcanist not even existing.
on a side note though, the magus can now qualify for DD xD
i guess a level of bard is in order.
Or Sorcerer. Either or...
What is interesting though is that with the new Archetype in ACG, the Magus can now have spontanious casting as a bard, allowing it to become a DD... This can create for some interesting builds ideas since Magi are naturally Gish, and the DD rewards Gish-es more than pure casters.
Or Sorcerer. Either or...
What is interesting though is that with the new Archetype in ACG, the Magus can now have spontanious casting as a bard, allowing it to become a DD... This can create for some interesting builds ideas since Magi are naturally Gish, and the DD rewards Gish-es more than pure casters.
wait would this effectively give you 2 dragon bloodline progressions that don't stack at all?
1sorc/9arcanist/10dragon disciple has both an effective level of 11 and 19
that... is actually interesting. I am not sure 0,0
For people wondering about arcanist interaction.
The bloodline ability gives you the first bloodline ability, it starts stacking if you receive it from a different source (DD is a source for this). so once you take your first level of DD, the bloodline ability stacks fully.
You don't technically qualify as a arcanist, due to you still needing to prepare your spells. However ANY form of spell-like ability will solve this. Very easy to do with traits etc.