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Your close bond with an animal allows you to use magic that targets animals on yourself.
Prerequisite:Animal Companion or Mount Class feature
Benefit: You can allow spells and effects that affect animals, animal companions, and special mounts to affect you, even if the spells do not normally affect creatures of your type. For example, you could cast Animal Growth or Reduce Animal on yourself, even though those spells normally affect only animals. An Ally could cast Raise Animal Companion on you to bring you back from the dead. An opponent could not cast Charm Animal[/] or [i]Dominate Animal on you unless you chose to allow the spell to affect you as if you were an animal.
So yea...I guess with this feat a character is a valid target for the Awaken spell?
If there is anything that stops this please let me know cause that is just silly.
Nope
This spell does not function on an animal or plant with an Intelligence greater than 2.
Unless you are feebleminded or otherwise lose intelligence the spell would fail, but since the intent it would likely be errata'd anyway if there was a way to make it happen.
I was thinking of 3.5's Awaken so my bad for not fully reading the spell.
Probably more that you can do with this feat though that is weird.
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Anthropomorphic Animal is also on the table.
Can't see much in the way of practical usage, but if someone loses their limbs and nobody has regeneration, technically it's a stopgap fix.
Wait. Did they just make infinite CHA awakening shenanigans available to... well anyone who wants it. Forget Sacred Geometry, this is the craziest thing I've read. It's even better then Nature Oracle 20, since you always qualify for awakening, even if you shouldn't. Game over man. Game over.
Simulacrums of Lorthact were my go-to for Nature Oracle 20 awakening looping.
You can get a cheap res with this off of raise animal companion.
Animal growth +strong jaw on a shape shifted T rex would be sick.
Animal Soul:
Your close bond with an animal allows you to use magic that targets animals on yourself.
Prerequisite:Animal Companion or Mount Class feature
Benefit: You can allow spells and effects that affect animals, animal companions, and special mounts to affect you, even if the spells do not normally affect creatures of your type. For example, you could cast Animal Growth or Reduce Animal on yourself, even though those spells normally affect only animals. An Ally could cast Raise Animal Companion on you to bring you back from the dead. An opponent could not cast Charm Animal[/] or [i]Dominate Animal on you unless you chose to allow the spell to affect you as if you were an animal.
Anyone else catch this gem?
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Hmm... Could you be someone's animal companion? Could they use you as their mount? Could they use the ride skill to have attacks miss you?
Or just have a small character on the medium one. A real Halfling Cavalier of the sword has a Barbarian or a Bloodrager as a mount. Now we're really talking about a str score to add to attacks.
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I would combine this with Sacred Geometry in order to cast a maximized awaken spell. :D
Sorcerer casts Contingency with a maximized version of Awaken on himself.
Trigger: Int goes below 3. He then gets Int drained sufficiently.
Effect: 18 Int, +3 Cha, 2 HD, and becomes a magical beast.
Problem: You need to make a will save of 10 + HD, which could be a problem. You need a high Wis score.
Note: You still have the feat, so you now can count as animal and magical beast, but not humanoid. Think of the possibilities for Disguise Self!
/cevah
The extra HD are not class HD, so should not interfere with that progression. The Awaken spell does not mention any cap. The CRB p406-407 has limited rules for post 20th level.
/cevah
You can get a cheap res with this off of raise animal companion.
Animal growth +strong jaw on a shape shifted T rex would be sick.
SO as a wild shaped druid with a larger form (i'm medium and shape change to a huge animal), I could use Animal growth with strong jaw even though I used a polymorph effect that increased my size and the effect of animal growth is based on a change in size?
They nerfed it due to circumstances... pretty much demonstrated with this thread. Inconvenient rules problems due to the fact that earlier content never expect sudden type changes.
They nerfed it due to circumstancesI'd actually wager a dinner on it wasn't nerfed as much as they intended it to work the way it reads now, but flubbed on how to articulate that in the initial writing of the feat to have unintended interpretations.
Of course. That is how the story usually goes. They write something up, then someone clever on the forum later finds a way to game the gaps and any hazy language so it works in unintended ways, so they have to clarify themselves
It is mostly a nerf due to the fact that it cuts off the new power that others added onto what they originally intended.
It is mostly a nerf due to the fact that it cuts off the new power that others added onto what they originally intended.Ok from those rose colored classes, it is a nerf.
Wow that is a massive nerf. Expected it for PFS but who seriously would want this feat as changed?
The original description made sense and if too powerful could have had specific spells excluded. Too bad. Thanks for the replies
It sounds like it just makes you immune to things like Hold Person.
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So yea...I guess with this feat a character is a valid target for the Awaken spell?
If there is anything that stops this please let me know cause that is just silly.
Before the errata, yes. After the errata, I don't know. The new version is confusing as heck.
"You can choose not to allow spells and effects to effect you if they would not be capable of affecting both your original creature type and the animal creature type."
Wait, I can choose not to allow it? Doesn't that mean I can choose to allow it as well? If I want Awaken or Animal Growth can I still get it? It seems to imply that a character gains the animal type while keeping the original type. The errata makes it more ambiguous.
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Wait, I can choose not to allow it?
Correct.
Doesn't that mean I can choose to allow it as well? If I want Awaken or Animal Growth can I still get it?
Of course not. If you'd never seen the original you wouldn't even think you could.
Someone casts Hold Person on you. You can choose not to allow it because Hold Person doesn't work on an animal.
Animal Growth targets an animal. You are not an animal so you aren't a valid target--you don't get far enough along for Animal Soul to even matter because you're not a legal target for the spell.
It seems to imply that a character gains the animal type while keeping the original type. The errata makes it more ambiguous.
It implies nothing remotely similar to any of this.
You can choose not to allow spells and effects to effect you if they would not be capable of affecting both your original creature type and the animal creature type.
It's ridiculously simple and straight forward. Just forget everything you know about the feat used to be and read it as it is now--that should solve any misconceptions you have about it.
OK, I was reading too much into it.