Ring of Elemental Command CL Question

[Kobold Dude]

I know the CL for the Ring of Elemental Command is 15, but what is the caster level for the spell-abilities in a ring of elemental command?

This came up because of Hero Lab showing a RoEC(Air) having a Chain Lightning 1/day (CL1).

[Lifat]

An item with no noted CL for the abilities it has uses the minimum CL to craft it (meaning CL 15 in this example).

[Kobold Dude]

Thanks, and wow.

[LazarX]

The spell effects of any item operate at the item's caster level. Herolab is wrong.

[PathlessBeth]

Lifat wrote:

An item with no noted CL for the abilities it has uses the minimum CL to craft it (meaning CL 15 in this example).

The minimum CL to craft a ring of elemental command is actually 11 (the listed caster level is not a prerequisite, unless a CL is explicitly listed under prerequisites, see the faq. Incidentally that is the same ruling made in the errata to the 3.5 DMG.)

Ring of elemental command had requirements

CRB wrote:

Forge Ring, summon monster VI, all appropriate spells

All the spells are 6th level or lower, so the requirements can be met at 11th level for a wizard.

[Lifat]

137ben wrote:

Lifat wrote:

An item with no noted CL for the abilities it has uses the minimum CL to craft it (meaning CL 15 in this example).

The minimum CL to craft a ring of elemental command is actually 11 (the listed caster level is not a prerequisite, unless a CL is explicitly listed under prerequisites, see the faq. Incidentally that is the same ruling made in the errata to the 3.5 DMG.)

Ring of elemental command had requirements

CRB wrote:

Forge Ring, summon monster VI, all appropriate spells

All the spells are 6th level or lower, so the requirements can be met at 11th level for a wizard.

Fair enough. BUT: The ring is listed with a CL 15, which is calculated into the price of the item. So unless you pay less the abilities still function at CL 15.