Everyone with complete characters, make a post here with your character’s alias and I look through it again.
Hello! Ready to be looked over
Gazul your legendary item should have 10 additional abilities, equal to your tier but you only have chosen 9.
The rest of your important abilities look correct so just rectify this and you should be good to go
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Tavik looks fine, your mythic abilities and special powers are all in order. You are a silksworn occulist right? that would explain the 4 schools and adding charisma to MF
Btw, Mythic spellpower (letting you cast mythic spells without MP 2/day) is an archmage ability not a universal ability as you have marked on your sheet. Unless you meant Mythic spellcasting(giving you access to mythic spells)
Laere: Divine source requires your first 2 domains to be alignment domains that match your alignment unless it is neutral. Since you are chaotic neutral, one of the two domains must be chaotic, the other domain is free for you to choose. Once you rectify this you are fine
Tavik: You didnt indicate what domain you chose for your own divine source but since you, like Laere, only picked divine source once, your domains must be alignment domains that follow your alignment. since you are CG, your domains have to be Chaotic and Good
About the domains...and the fact I changed from Desna to Magdh.
1. I will probably be LN - to respect alignment chart for the elder
2. Divine source gives exception for alignment domains if you worship a divinity - you can chose domain of that deity
If you're a cleric or you venerate a deity, you may change your spell domains to those you grant others.
Yes, Tavik is silksworn.
I will check for mythic path powers, there are several with similar names and some are deceptive :)it is one that grants mythic spells, the other makes nomsense if you don't have any.
I have to go do chores, I'll correct things after lunch 4-6 hours from now
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That’s not how the ability works. The part you quoted just means if you are a cleric who worships say Desna and you gain the Chaotic and Star domain(which Desna doesn’t offer) from divine source, you can choose to gain bonus domain spells(the cleric feature) from the domain you grant to others(Your Star domain).
If it meanst you can choose the domain of your deity, it would say, “If you are a cleric or venerate a deity, you may change your … domains to those your deity grant to others”
Read the quoted part again with my Emphasis: If you're a cleric or you venerate a deity, you may change your spell domains to those you grant others
It specifically mentions that it is those you(the PC) grant to other people. Not those your god grants others
This is just to allow clerics to use the ability to gain domain spells from domains their god doesn’t offer
Read the second post under this thread for a more in depth answer:
divine source: how does it work
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1st Special Power: Templates up to +2: Advanced and Celestial
2nd Special Power: A class ability from a class you did not take(as long as they gain it at level ten or less): Investigator Inspiration (Ex)
3rd Special Power: Phoenix Sorcerer Bloodline Powers
Rectified and good to go
Oswald: Why do you have three feats? you dont appear to have traded mythic feats for ordinary feats so you should only have one feat at lvl 1 right?
your SR should be much higher, your CR is 1(lvl)+5(MR10)+2(templates)=8. So your SR should be 13 not 6
You are no longer taking sleuth so you don't get sleuth's initiative
You gain the pheonix bloodline arcana in addition to the bloodline power. Just not the feats, spells etc
Rectify these and you should be set
Kharl: You can add an additional CR +1 template if you want since Aerial only progresses to a CR +1. the template special power lets you choose up to cumulative CR +2 templates
You could also add a TMB to get another special power but otherwise you are good
Tavik: remember to write down your domains(chaotic and good) that you get from divine source and remember to mark down the spell like abilities you get from this on you sheet. Just so you don’t forget you have them
Oswald: Why do you have three feats? you dont appear to have traded mythic feats for ordinary feats so you should only have one feat at lvl 1 right?
That is weird. I don't know why I had that many feats.
Thanks for catching my SR problem. All other issues have been rectified.
Alyarah: I am pretty sure you are good to go. your special powers and mythic abilities add up. Though i notice you didnt take any of the mythic poison abilities Gazul told you about. Is that your intent?
One last thing, keep in mind you wont be able to recharge your staff for a while so use it with care
Lysander: Your stat block is really hard to read without bolding and separation of mythic feats and abilities. Please bold and add a spoiler for your mythic abilities
Anathiel: Like Lysander, put your mythic abilities in a list under a spoiler. It is very hard for me to tell what mythic abilities you chose if you mix them in with normal abilities without even bolding the [MA]. Especially since you have other tags like [ARG] and [UE]
Without them being sorted separately i cant tell why, for instance, you have resist cold, electricity and acid 12 instead of the standard 10. I know its probably a Mythic ability because you have Mythic paragon but without proper sorting, i cant tell immediately
Catador: I see you haven't fully copy and pasted everything yet but mechanically your build is in order from what i can tell. so you are good to go once you fully complete your story and copy in the base mythic abilities
there is one thing i should clarify though:
The base mythic ability Recuperation which lets you spent 1 mythic power to regain features that are limited by uses per day, only works for Class features. It explicitly doesn't work on Mythic abilities. So your plan on how to use your divine source spell-likes multiple times a day won't work.
Recuperation (Ex)
At 3rd tier, you are restored to full hit points after 8 hours of rest so long as you aren’t dead. In addition, by expending one use of mythic power and resting for 1 hour, you regain a number of hit points equal to half your full hit points (up to a maximum of your full hit points) and regain the use of any class features that are limited to a certain number of uses per day (such as barbarian rage, bardic performance, spells per day, and so on). This rest is treated as 8 hours of sleep for such abilities. This rest doesn’t refresh uses of mythic power or any mythic abilities that are limited to a number of times per day.
For the rest of you, comment here when you are done so i can vet your character sheet
Lysander: Your stat block is really hard to read without bolding and separation of mythic feats and abilities. Please bold and add a spoiler for your mythic abilities
Ah! I just added the mythic abilities (including a rundown of my item's powers) in the Special Power section right before I checked Discussion. It had previously been just the HeroLab statblock copy&paste, which isn't great about separating out mythic stuff. I've gone back and added all the mythic stuff into the Special Power spoiler.
Lysander First thing that jumped out at me, your intelligent weapon has to be the same alignment as you. But honestly i would just let it slide if you already have a personality in mind for it
Howdy! I’ll adjust the domains once I get to my computer. I was under the impression that the domains had to be associated with chaos (domains of chaotic deities, like concepts like freedom etc.) not that they had to be chaos specifically.
Thanks again for the help GM!
Laere: No problem. Yeah one of the limitations of divine source is you do have to choose alignment domains first before you can pick the cool domains.
Lysander: I read through your mythic spoiler and everything seems in order. Please bold your various sections and abilities like others have done though. Its quite difficult to read when everything is in plain text
I'M SO EXCITED TO GET STARTED!!! [girlish squeal]
I am happy this excites you so much! :) I will type up the intro soon or latest by when I wake up tomorrow
I believe Evangelia is ready for review. NB: non-automatic calculations are in Other Notes at the bottom of the Myth-weavers sheet
One thing to note: I did note the limitation on Divine Source, but since I'm already picking the Good domain as her domain for Mortal Herald, I was hoping I could choose two other domains for Divine Source?
I believe Evangelia is ready for review.
One thing to note: I did note the limitation on Divine Source, but since I'm already picking the Good domain as her domain for Mortal Herald, I was hoping I could choose two other domains for Divine Source?
You could just pick a different domain for her mortal herald? Actually the domain choice for mortal herald is far more important and powerful than divine source since you can cast your spell-like as many times as you like as long as you have MP to spare
Also perhaps I should wait for your sheet to be completed? You haven’t inputted most of the stats yet
The mortal herald spells can be used more times (using MP) while the divine source domains is only once per day, no MP. So I guess there are also mechanical/strategical reasons to which one is the mortal herald vs the other two, similar to Laere here (which I still need to review).
I assume subdomains of Chaos are also okay, in which case I think I may go with Entropy - will have it all reviewed tonight :)
The Myth-Weaver sheet, linked in her header (click on Bard) and profile, does have all the stats:
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/?id=3072452
Is that a No on the "Mortal Herald: Good + Divine Source: other domains" small (IMHO) deviation request?
I know I could arrange things differently, but it suits her well, hence my asking. Of course, the DM's word is final.
Evangelia: I will allow it in this case, assuming your character is NG. You would get access to 3 domains and only one has to be good(again assuming you are NG) plus taking the good domain as a mortal herald in this case seems to be more character based rather than power gamey so I allow it.
Laere again technically divine source has to be a normal domain not a subdomain when taken once but fine, it’s small and doesn’t seem to be particularly power gamey so I will allow it.
Evangelia Your sheet looks pretty good, I haven’t spotted any mistakes so I think it’s good to go.
The only thing is your divine source, the domains you choose have to be glory and healing. You cannot choose subdomains for both Glory and Healing. As long as your spell likes from divine source come from the two main domains then your character is good to go
Oh and do write down your spells and spell-likes in the sheet or perhaps on your alias so both of us can remember what they are easily
Actually, reading through it, it seems both domains would have to be connected to the alignment if possible (so, a lawful good character would need to have law and good domains), while a neutral character becomes a bit more flexible. Other domains and subdomains would only be possible if you take the ability an extra time (unless you’re neutral of course). A chaotic neutral character would have a locked domain on chaos like you said! I think the overall intention RAI was likely that even in this case (CN) both domains to be more connected to the alignment (as in, Chaos plus one of its subdomains). Anyway, I still need to actually sit down on my computer to review the sheet :)1
Divine Source (Su) (Mythic Adventures pg. 51): You can grant divine spells to those who follow your cause, allowing them to select you as their deity for the purposes of determining their spells and domains. Select two domains upon taking this ability. These domains must be alignment domains matching your alignment if possible, unless your alignment is neutral. You grant access to these domains as if you were a deity. Creatures that gain spells from you don't receive any spells per day of levels higher than your tier; they lose those spell slots. In addition, you can cast spells from domains you grant as long as their level is equal to or less than your tier. Each day as a spell-like ability, you can cast one spell of each level equal to or less than your tier (selecting from those available to you from your divine source domains). If you're a cleric or you venerate a deity, you may change your spell domains to those you grant others. At 6th tier and 9th tier, you can select this ability again, adding one domain and two subdomains (see the Advanced Player's Guide) to your list each time and adding their spells to the list of those that you can cast.
Laere well that would be a very unfavourable reading of the rules because now CN, LN, NG and NE characters now only get one domain and one subdomain. Which is very drastically worse than 2 domains. Even the rules seem to understand this as when you take divine source a second and third time, you gain 1 domain and 2 subdomains instead of 2 domains. And this would mean Neutral either gets to choose freely(not very fair to the above groups) or is forced to choose an aligned domain anyway(which should not be possible since you can’t take any alignment domain as a neutral character.)
The way I will run it, and the way most people seem to run it based on online chatter, is domains based on your alignment get priority(IE you have no choice but to pick it) and if you have a neutral alignment(TN or any of the other Neutral alignments), you are free to choose any domain.
The RAI is essentially how Paizo actually designs true gods. If you look at the stat blocks of every true pathfinder God(Asmodeus, Desna, Iori, Nethys, Outer gods) has 5 domains. 2 of which are their alignment domains(Asmodeus has Law and evil, Desna Good and Chaos) and 3 domains of their choice. For deities with one neutral component(say shelyn), she has 1 aligned domain(good) and four other domains. True neutral deities(Nethys, Pharasma) have 5 domains of their choice. Divine source forcing you to take aligned domains before you are free to choose whatever domain you want fits with how Paizo themselves designs deities.
Also fun fact, Mythic characters are supposed to be demigods because if you take divine source 3 times, you get 4 domains and 4 subdomains, the same number that demigods like the 4 horsemen, demon lords and great old ones get.
So for you Laere, you must take chaos(entropy) but you are free to take one other domain of your choice
Evangelia[...]
The only thing is your divine source, the domains you choose have to be glory and healing. You cannot choose subdomains for both Glory and Healing. As long as your spell likes from divine source come from the two main domains then your character is good to goOh and do write down your spells and spell-likes in the sheet or perhaps on your alias so both of us can remember what they are easily
Yes, I'll complete the sheet.
Is the backstory worthy of an extra Mythic ability, by the way? Or would you like to see some more information on there? I assume the TMB is OK for the 3rd special ability since you didn't remark on it.
If I get an extra MA, I might use it on Divine Source to get the subdomains, I'll think on it. I might also jsut diverge from Sarenrae's domains: I was sticking to them, but after all this is a new world, not Golarion.
Anyhow guys I need sleep I will work on the intro post as soon as I wake up
For now as the players gather I will run you all as one group first, as everyone has gotten to know each other and most characters are completed, you will then be split up into different parties.
Of course if you eventually decide to go with one big party that is also fine
Evangelia same requirement as Gazul and Laere give me 3 memories featuring each of your Important npcs. You can refer to Gazul and Laere’s sheet to see what I expect. Once you add that you can take an additional MA
Kharl: You can add an additional CR +1 template if you want since Aerial only progresses to a CR +1. the template special power lets you choose up to cumulative CR +2 templatesYou could also add a TMB to get another special power but otherwise you are good
Hmm.... I took Ariel because I was going with the elemental type. I have the Fire and Earth Domains so was looking for Air and Water. I can't take Aqueous because Ariel grants me the Air subtype. Can't take a second elemental subtype. So, how about Boreal Creature ?? It only says no to fire types since it is a cold subtype. So I'd be a cold breeze! I did have to look up the cold subtype for clarity. I get immune to cold but vulnerable to fire. Once I'm able to cast it I'll have to keep fire resistance on constant!
I am working on the ten-minute background. It takes a good deal longer than ten minutes to write it, and my cat keeps jumping in my lap, on my laptop, while I'm working on it. Never-the-less, I should have it done my tomorrow. One of the options I see under the "Special Powers" is 3 feats. Am I correct with that as an Special Power to select? Clerics always seem to be feat starved so that would be great! ??
Hey GM my character is done, it should be ready to go now. I have also expanded on the Ten minute background so that it fits your requirement for the extra mythic ability. Mythic abilities and special powers are put into separate spoilers for your convenience.
The only really notable thing about my character is the super high int score which I showed the calculations for at the bottom of the alias. She also the herald of Nethys and has a divine source for more spells.
The poison abilities he mentioned required the worship of a god, which Alyarah won't be doing (yet). They also didn't improve poisons, so not what I was looking for.
The Enhance Magic Items mythic ability allows me to use mythic power instead of charges so I'll mostly be doing that at low levels.
Just need to finish up my background and I'll be good to go.
Karl: Sure you can take Boreal creature as your second template
Yes you can select 3 feats as a special power. I had thought more people would choose that option for more feats but apparently not.
Yasmin(Frillfrill): I had a glance over your character and everything seems to be in order. Your backstory is enough for me to give you the extra MA. You are good to go
Alyarah:Ah I see understandable. Alright that’s a pretty good plan then.
Laere well that would be a very unfavourable reading of the rules ...
Yes, I agree it's an unfavorable way to read the rules! But it's fine, I just said "I believe..." because that's what I feel could be used to keep it more grounded (we're quite strong already with everything else going on!). But regardless, I adjusted Laere's sheet accordingly, and thanks for the help.
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Everyone, gameplay is open. All those with complete characters I have vetted may start posting. The rest of you can take your time, no worries
Laere: let me worry about the balance of power. You just have fun playing your character
The point of the intro scene is for you all to talk to each other, maybe discuss a bit about your background. So you all can get a grasp on each other’s character. This might also help you decide who you would like to be grouped up with in the future if I decided to split you into smaller groups
Hey GM before I hop into game I decided to swap mythic accursed hex for another copy use of divine source for the Rune Domain so I can put protections and Glyphs in my sanctum. Mainly for flavour and also because she would want her new home to be much more well defended than her last one.
Anathiel: Like Lysander, put your mythic abilities in a list under a spoiler. It is very hard for me to tell what mythic abilities you chose if you mix them in with normal abilities without even bolding the [MA]. Especially since you have other tags like [ARG] and [UE]
Without them being sorted separately i cant tell why, for instance, you have resist cold, electricity and acid 12 instead of the standard 10. I know its probably a Mythic ability because you have Mythic paragon but without proper sorting, i cant tell immediately
Actually, the extra +2 to energy resistances is due to the unscathed trait. Useful little trick.
Feats don't fail me know
* Mythic Paragon
* Extra Path Ability
* Dual Path: Champion
* Mythic Dodge
* Non-mythic feat - mobility
Path Abilities
* Adamantine Mind
* Impervious body x2
* Enhanced ability Wisdom
* Mythic Sight x2
* Fast Healing 5 (stacks with Non-mythic Fast healing 5)
* Empathic Healing
* Kinetic Font
* Armor Master
* Penetrating Damage
Guardian's Call
* Absorb Blow
Champion's Strike
* Fleet charge
Mythic stats
* 2 wisdom
* 2 con
* 6 dex
@Elioa. Thanks, and yes, three feats really rounded out my build so I didn't need to wait for them. With other things I'd feats to have for the build they were really slowing my plans down!
Suggestion for everyone. I haven't done this yet but am going to try and add it today.... Add a spoiler somewhere at the top titled something like "Meeting Me". If the idea is that we all 'know each other' from being resurrected together, I don't think we'd be experts on what each person can do. Rather, it would be more like we all were introduced to each other, so what did we learn from that introduction? Not things like Mythic powers since we all have them. But obvious things and 'cool new stuff'. Like Kharl looks 'frosty' now and can take the shape of an eagle. With the number of people in this group I think it will make things easier.
Yasmin: Sure if it’s just a direct swap that alright with me
Anathiel: alright good that’s better. From my quick glance you should be good to go.
Kharl: No problem that was the point of the feats after all.
Erm I am not sure if I clarified this but you don’t know each other personally unless you have actually met in your backstory before. When I said you knew about each other, what I meant is that when you were reincarnated, the being who brought you back to life showed you briefly everyone else who they had also brought back and said , “You are not the only one who will be reborn”. That’s why I am having you all give a brief description of yourselves as you meet each other
Your suggestion could still work though, if you’d like you could put a description of yourself in a spoiler in your alias so that everyone can easily remind themself of how your character looks
Oh and Kharl you are good to go. Can’t remember if I said that yet
What I'm seeing thus far:
At the same table
* Gazul: Duegar Brawler
* Oswald: Aasimar Bard
* Kharl: Human Cleric
* Yasmin: Ghoran Wizard
In the same room
* Laere: Gathlain Bard
In Discussion but not in the scene yet
* Evangelia: Half-Celestial Bard
* Alyarah: Elf Arcanist
* Anathiel: Half-Celestial Kineticist