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We used to keep Kobold in a can with no holes, but apparently that’s a felony. Now Kobold can breathe and Ward is doing 5 to 7 in a medium security prison.

Ward if you are reading this, thanks for taking the blame on that one, dear. I promise I will stay true to you.

To anyone else reading this, I am lonely and I have needs. Don’t be shy.


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I miss the can. The covid couldn't get me in there.


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A canopener is a fairly simple tool. Corvids can get you anywhere.


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I believe I could easily best as many as eighteen corvids in a fight, so I'm not too worried.


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Ah but I think one non-co-vid would give you quite the hassle!


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Perhaps, if videoed covertly.


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So, one last necromance, is it?

I kidded around a lot about the horrors of locked threads, but the truth is, Sara Marie made the boards a better place. She was a keystone of this community for me, extremely fair and thoughtful in her moderation. She kept this site healthy. Without her around--and I wish her the best--I just don't feel great about this website. Additionally, I am so saddened and disappointed in how she's been treated.

I have nothing but respect and appreciation for the developers, artists and editors of Paizo, and for those still working to keep the messageboards pleasant and safe to use, but a lot of the people I most looked up to have left under the shadows cast by Paizo's abysmal, abusive management team.

Incidentally, I don't actually know if we're allowed to discuss this stuff. On the off-chance someone is about to delete this post, could you do me a favor and lock this thread, too? I don't really feel right maintaining it in any capacity without Sara around, especially if we can't even talk about what happened.

Silver Crusade

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So vastly disappointed in how this went down. It breaks my heart. Her and Diego were the heart and soul of Paizo.


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I remember Sara always taking such care when locking threads--she always tried to deescalate or trim rather than lock, to let a thread continue if it could be salvaged and had something worth discussing. It was clearly a lot of work, but it made the forums feel so much friendlier than if she'd just shut it all down. The latter would have been easier. Tons of forums just take that approach. But she didn't want to go in with a hammer. She shows so much genuine restraint with her power, and it made me trust Paizo's moderation team immensely. Importantly, when there was a real problem, she came in and very coolly explained why posts got deleted. It never felt arbitrary to me.


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Kobold Cleaver wrote:

So, one last necromance, is it?

I kidded around a lot about the horrors of locked threads, but the truth is, Sara Marie made the boards a better place. She was a keystone of this community for me, extremely fair and thoughtful in her moderation. She kept this site healthy. Without her around--and I wish her the best--I just don't feel great about this website. Additionally, I am so saddened and disappointed in how she's been treated.

I have nothing but respect and appreciation for the developers, artists and editors of Paizo, and for those still working to keep the messageboards pleasant and safe to use, but a lot of the people I most looked up to have left under the shadows cast by Paizo's abysmal, abusive management team.

Incidentally, I don't actually know if we're allowed to discuss this stuff. On the off-chance someone is about to delete this post, could you do me a favor and lock this thread, too? I don't really feel right maintaining it in any capacity without Sara around, especially if we can't even talk about what happened.

I'm missing context here, may I please get enlightenment either via PM or under spoiler?

Silver Crusade

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:

So, one last necromance, is it?

I kidded around a lot about the horrors of locked threads, but the truth is, Sara Marie made the boards a better place. She was a keystone of this community for me, extremely fair and thoughtful in her moderation. She kept this site healthy. Without her around--and I wish her the best--I just don't feel great about this website. Additionally, I am so saddened and disappointed in how she's been treated.

I have nothing but respect and appreciation for the developers, artists and editors of Paizo, and for those still working to keep the messageboards pleasant and safe to use, but a lot of the people I most looked up to have left under the shadows cast by Paizo's abysmal, abusive management team.

Incidentally, I don't actually know if we're allowed to discuss this stuff. On the off-chance someone is about to delete this post, could you do me a favor and lock this thread, too? I don't really feel right maintaining it in any capacity without Sara around, especially if we can't even talk about what happened.

I'm missing context here, may I please get enlightenment either via PM or under spoiler?

Follow the links in the posts above. Apparently Sara Marie was just gired


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pauljathome wrote:
Wei Ji the Learner wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:

So, one last necromance, is it?

I kidded around a lot about the horrors of locked threads, but the truth is, Sara Marie made the boards a better place. She was a keystone of this community for me, extremely fair and thoughtful in her moderation. She kept this site healthy. Without her around--and I wish her the best--I just don't feel great about this website. Additionally, I am so saddened and disappointed in how she's been treated.

I have nothing but respect and appreciation for the developers, artists and editors of Paizo, and for those still working to keep the messageboards pleasant and safe to use, but a lot of the people I most looked up to have left under the shadows cast by Paizo's abysmal, abusive management team.

Incidentally, I don't actually know if we're allowed to discuss this stuff. On the off-chance someone is about to delete this post, could you do me a favor and lock this thread, too? I don't really feel right maintaining it in any capacity without Sara around, especially if we can't even talk about what happened.

I'm missing context here, may I please get enlightenment either via PM or under spoiler?
Follow the links in the posts above. Apparently Sara Marie was just fired

The Paizo Customer Service Team has been traditionally one of the Best portions of the company, and their responsiveness, diligence, and attention to *detail* is what has kept me around during some of the points that I was considering quitting gaming entirely.

The inclusive nature of Paizo is what sells the product for me, and inclusion does not mean that anyone is 'less' because of it. It's possible to SHARE!

I just hope that Sara finds a better gig than my Employer, who is a fraudlent unsafe cesspit of a Corporation that's several orders of magnitude WORSE than what's been indicated.

EDIT: Warning signs a company needs to review internal issues and FIX them -- when a high ranking staffer has to have a GoFundMe set up for injuries because the company won't or 'can't' take care of a member of the team.

EDIT2: Diego has been AMAZING at this job, and I remember him GMing a Paizo Staffer PF1 table of Silent Tide at the last live PaizoCon before COVID. I hope he finds or has a better thing lined up, too.


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I'm just really desensitized to this stuff especially after Blizzard. I'd...limited my interaction on the forums to mostly pbp until more recently. After 3 of my friends got banned for...questionable reasons, it definitely didn't exactly feel welcome. Sometimes I get nostalgic and go dumpster diving through some old threads and it's kind of wild how many folks are just...not around anymore.

Sometimes you get a glimpse behind the exterior and see some grimy cogs.

Silver Crusade

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That moment you see a dot on a post in a forum you haven't posted on in 3 years and wonder wtf?

And yeah, Sara Marie, she was the best at what she did. I didn't always agree with her decisions on the forums but it came from a good place. Diego is one of the best men I've ever known. That one hurt.

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Certainly missing their moderation today, for sure.


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Cori Marie wrote:
Certainly missing their moderation today, for sure.

Are there *any* moderators right now? Other threads are... not doing well, to say the least.

Grand Lodge

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Moderation was always a team thing from my understanding. The better to curb individual bias towards posts. Now the team is disrupted and likely hesitant to overstep, only focusing on the most egregious offenses.

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Allowing a very sad little troll to hoover up attention that would be better paid to the actual problems at hand...

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Ironic that we're running to the Threadlock Refugees thread to get away from threads that have gotten out of hand and should be locked.

Silver Crusade

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I'm not sure what it's like now, but those two being gone would have meant about half of the CS staff. The thread lock and banhammer buttons were ever coveted only a few people had them and even less were allowed to use them. And GenCon is going on. Not sure what's happening there but the way the registers tie in to Paizo was something they had to be on the ball for, especially for big release stuff. I imagine that CS is busy and there is less staff attached to computers now than there usually are.

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They're not physically at GenCon this year, so that part isn't a thing, but I think there are three remaining team members now?

Grand Lodge

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I think that problem is not in effect given they chose not to have a physical presence this year. No idea what the online component is doing to their efforts however.

Silver Crusade

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Ah I've seen erik's posts about GenCon. I'm glad they didn't force people to go this year. Not loving what I'm seeing on the floor from a few pictures and I hope the ones that did go stay safe. ConCrud is going to be a helluva thing this year.

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Hey TOZ, bless you for bringing back "THE LAW"

Grand Lodge

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A true moment of serendipity, awash in the sea of refuse.

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I laughed out loud. It was a moment of pure joy amidst everything.


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So many aliases, abandoned and unused, left behind in the passage of time...


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My only fun one is this little gremlin


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So many aliases, abandoned and unused, left behind in the passage of time...

LIKE OCULAR DUCT EMISSIONS IN ATMOSPHERIC FLUID UNDER GRAVITY


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First workout in a long time!

Silver Crusade

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I guess I'm out, y'all. Lovely to see you all again, but the forums are as hostile a place as ever... Here's to Golarion, though!

Grand Lodge

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Only thing keeping me here now are my PbPs.

Silver Crusade

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It was good to see you, however briefly Lissa. <3


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I'm not sure what to do now. Coming back has made me realise how much I missed this community, but so many I used to talk with frequently aren't here anymore. And it's been a long time since I've seen them.

Am I just chasing nostalgia?

Grand Lodge

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I think we all are.


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Yep, so many people gone. Change sucks.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Only thing keeping me here now are my PbPs.

Only thing keeping me here is you people, if everyone leaves and it's just me, who will keep all my aliases from cannibalizing myself... Or whatever it is that temporary fragments of a marginally imaginative thought do to their hosts when everything collapses.

*Gasp* I think I finally get what Prometheus is about?!... No, never mind, still don't get it.


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*pours one out for The Law and its lost favorites*

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RIP The Law, you were a fantastic bit that came at the perfect time.


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Words cannot express how broken up this loss has made me.

Silver Crusade

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AH UNDEAD! KILL IT WITH FIRE


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I started following the thread about this drama on ENWorld, because it wasn't as fast moving as any of the threads here and I could follow new developments easier.

The thread devolved into a discussion about Nazism and was locked.

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One of the threads here also devolved into a discussion on Nazism and had those posts removed.


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Murgh...


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Oh no, The Law! D:

We truly live in a Lawless age now.


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Umbral Reaver wrote:

I'm not sure what to do now. Coming back has made me realise how much I missed this community, but so many I used to talk with frequently aren't here anymore. And it's been a long time since I've seen them.

Am I just chasing nostalgia?

This is a big same for me. Every time I come back here, I'm reminded of why I stayed for so long, how much these forums meant to me. We rag a lot on toxic forums, but I'll take a messageboard's five toxic posters over social media's doomscrolling hellscape any day of the week.

Also, holy cow, a lot of people posted on this thread.


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We keep changing the locks, but you keep coming back.


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It really is great to see so many familiar faces... or at least names. I get lost for a little when one of the olde timers changes portraits. Aliases can safely be attributed to one of a half dozen posters!

Given the number of threads that I've started, or at least participated in, that turned into moderation timesinks and got locked, I feel like I really owe it to the moderation staff. I have brought trainwrecks to their front door more times then anyone should have to deal with. I would like to go to bat for the mods, but only in a way they want me to. I don't have the out-of-forum contacts that other regulars seem to have, but hopefully they know how much love is out there for them. I also hope that they are able to come forward and lend some clarity to the situation. In the end, everything should be alright for them. If its not alright, its not the end!

I want everyone here to know how much love I have for all of you and the Paizo people on the forums. It has been a hard year and a half, and also a hard decade and a half. I hope you are able to keep coming back, but if you can't I understand. You will be missed and remembered, at least until the rain washes the tears away...
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Silver Crusade

This is why some of us haven’t changed our portraits since 2006.

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