Inquisitor Judgement and Spiritual Weapon


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Does an inquisitor's spiritual weapon spell gain a bonus to damage from the inquisitor's destruction judgement?

I ask because it is an action to activate a judgement, and according to the text of spiritual weapon, " Your feats or combat actions do not affect the weapon."


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I've found it helpful to treat the spiritual weapon as an ally. It's affected by stuff like the bard's performance, but when you power attack or arcane strike or whatever, the spiritual weapon isn't affected. It's not a perfect test, but it seems to work for us.


In the Core Rulebook FAQ, under a question about rays, it calls out spiritual weapon as a weapon-like spell that is affected by anything that affects weapons. The example is inspire courage, which gives a bonus to the wielder rather than a weapon itself. Therefore, if a spiritual weapon gets the bonus from that, it should get other bonuses that apply to the caster, including judgment.

So I would say yes.

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EDIT: Ok, based on the FAQ about rays and how it states spiritual weapon in it and on the wording for the judgements I would have to say that the judgements would affect the spiritual weapon.


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If Weapon Focus affects a spiritual weapon, I feel pretty confident that judgments and the like would as well.


I don't think Weapon Focus would affect a spiritual weapon. To quote the spell, "Your feats or combat actions do not affect the weapon."

I've read and I think I've understood that FAQ, but that line from spiritual weapon's text suggests it is in some ways an exception. Is the consensus still that an inquisitor's judgement, which takes an action to activate, does affect a spiritual weapon?


Keep Calm and Carrion wrote:

I don't think Weapon Focus would affect a spiritual weapon. To quote the spell, "Your feats or combat actions do not affect the weapon."

I've read and I think I've understood that FAQ, but that line from spiritual weapon's text suggests it is in some ways an exception. Is the consensus still that an inquisitor's judgement, which takes an action to activate, does affect a spiritual weapon?

Whoops, I was thinking of flame blade.


I would say it does. "Combat actions" is an undefined term, and treating it as anything which takes an action to activate would also exclude Inspire Courage. The only reason weapon focus and other feats don't work is because feats are directly called out as not working. I would argue, from the faq, that anything else is fair game.


Mort the Cleverly Named wrote:
I would say it does. "Combat actions" is an undefined term, and treating it as anything which takes an action to activate would also exclude Inspire Courage. The only reason weapon focus and other feats don't work is because feats are directly called out as not working. I would argue, from the faq, that anything else is fair game.

Looks legit.

Scarab Sages

Sorry for the necro, but does that mean a warpriest would have the option of using their sacred weapon damage with spiritual weapon? Spiritual weapon automatically takes the form of your deity's favored weapon, and your deity's favored weapon is a sacred weapon even if you don't take weapon focus in it.

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