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Can someone explain this item creation feat to me. Are the tattoos basically single use scrolls worn on the body? I have read people saying that it doubles the amount of magical items you can have? Are these tattoos permanent? If a character got a tattoo of bull's strength would he have a permanent +4 to strength?
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You cannot just tattoo something that's already a magic item. A Ring of Protection +2 is a ring that you put on your finger; you can't make a tattoo of that ring and have the same effect. Some magical tattoos have ongoing effects, but they do not generally replace/overlap with other magical items.
There are several specific types of magical tattoos that you can create with Inscribe Magical Tattoo and an appropriate Craft skill that will do interesting things.
Spell Tattoos (Inner Sea Magic) are what you describe in the OP. They are indeed 'wearable scrolls' but they cost FOUR times as much as a scroll does. Advantages: easy to access, silent, still, hard to remove.
You can generally have one per item slot.
Other magical tattoos are Wondrous Items:
Reservoir Tattoo
Caster's Tattoo
Runeward Tattoo
Kin's Face Tattoo
Animal Totem Tattoo
Holy Symbol Tattoo is a little different (non-magical), but still good. Doesn't look like you need the feat for that one, but I'm sure someone in your party would appreciate it.
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You cannot just tattoo something that's already a magic item. A Ring of Protection +2 is a ring that you put on your finger; you can't make a tattoo of that ring and have the same effect. Some magical tattoos have ongoing effects, but they do not generally replace/overlap with other magical items.
Sure you can.
Magical tattoos follow the rules for magic item creation as though they were wondrous items, except that they can use the Craft (calligraphy, paintings, tattoos) skill. New magical tattoos can be researched and designed using the guidelines for pricing new magic items. Magical tattoos are treated as slotless magical items for pricing purposes.
You can make a magical tattoo that does whatever you want, within the boundaries of the magic item creation rules, you just have to pay more for them since they're slotless.
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You can make a magical tattoo that does whatever you want, within the boundaries of the magic item creation rules, you just have to pay more for them since they're slotless.
Hmm... seems that you are right, and I stand corrected.
But, I think that's a terrible idea in general and it looks like it could be game-breaking if left unsupervised.
It is true that you can craft new tattoos that do <whatever>.
Those items are subject to the same caveats and rules that every other custom magic item is subject to. Creating new items or spells that duplicate the effects of existing items is discouraged for a variety of good reasons.
Still, this does not change the solution to the OP's and Rub-Eta's problem. The PCs could not craft a tattoo of a Headband of Vast Intelligence and then wear a regular Headband of Vast Intelligence on top of it and benefit from both. The bonus does not stack, and the Feat specifically forbids 'headband' slot tattoos.
Magic item crafting shenanigans are necessary for this.
Magic item crafting shenanigans are not recommended for this very reason.
The magic item creation rules do not allow for ability bonuses other than enhancement. The formulas and rules also say that they do not necessarily represent the actual worth/value of an item.
If the GMs bent the item creation rules and allowed a PC to craft a "+4 Strength belt tattoo" that provides a <non-enhancement> bonus, the price would be:
(bonus squared) x (gp value from chart) x (slotless multiplier)
(4x4)x(2500)x(2)= 80000gp OR (4x4)x(2000)x(2) = 64000gp, depending on which line you use for reference (AC or save bonus).
That doesn't seem to reflect the practical value of such an item, IMO, but it could be argued that it's close.
Technically you can do it with a Ring of Protection +2 tattoo that provides a luck bonus (or some other bonus) and wear it under a regular Ring of Protection +2
That would cost:
(2x2)x(2500)x(2) = 20000
I can think of other, cheaper ways to improve AC, but it seems to be a valid choice.
This still doesn't feel like it accurately represents the utility of stacking a bonus to the same stat/feature on the 'same' slot.
Looks like these GMs may need to homebrew this stuff.
the mistake here is in thinking that this was not something you could already do. Slotless magic items have been in Pathfinder since the beginning, they were in D&D 3.0 when I started playing, and I imagine they were around well before that.
Suppose you wanted to wear a Belt of Giant Strength and also a Belt of Mighty Constitution at the same time. Well, there is functionally no difference between having a "Tattoo of Mighty Constitution" and having an Iounstone that gives an enhancement bonus to Constitution.
It was, and is, something that people can already do. The only difference is now there is a feat for it that you technically don't need to take, as I already went over -you can do everything a Tattoo will do with Craft Wonderous Item-.
Could you make a metamagic rod tattoo? O_o I kind of want to make metamagic rods, but then at the same time... tattoos would be more awesome, flavor wise.
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Could you make a metamagic rod tattoo? O_o I kind of want to make metamagic rods, but then at the same time... tattoos would be more awesome, flavor wise.
No. Unless your GM wants to make a weird houserule.
As Talon pointed out:
Magical tattoos follow the rules for magic item creation as though they were wondrous items, except that they can use the Craft (calligraphy, paintings, tattoos) skill. New magical tattoos can be researched and designed using the guidelines for pricing new magic items. Magical tattoos are treated as slotless magical items for pricing purposes.
It can make a custom wondrous item or a specific magical tattoo.
I don't see a reason why a GM would allow you to make a Rod with (essentially) Craft Wondrous Item when there's a feat for that already: Craft Rod.
Hmm, okay yeah that makes sense.
Interesting. A character of mine may be up to 8 ring slots later then.
Can't really think of a lot of rings I'd want, but the joke of only using Rings of the Ram with the same keyword so they all activate at the same time has been mentioned.
There is a race in 'People of the Stars' that has four arms & hands, this would allow four ring slots by itself.
2 from having hands, 2 from Iscribe Magic Tattoo, 2 from being an Artisan(see the d20pfsrd), then 2 more from a homebrew feat taken twice.
All in all, not the best thing. And specialization to even do it is kinda costly....
Don't forget about Shadow Piercing to add extra gear to your belt, body, chest, eyes, feet, hands, head, neck, shoulder, and wrist slots. No reason not to get three items in one slot!
Shadow Piercings take up slots as far as I can tell.
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Shadow Piercings take up slots as far as I can tell.
The text says the opposite.
"Shadow piercings must be placed in a part of the body normally associated with a magic item slot, but they do not take up a slot on the body, nor interfere with other magic items that use those slots."
Weird. That's not on the pfsrd20
Weird. That's not on the pfsrd20
Really? That's where I pulled the quote from. Did you just look under the Shadow Piercings entry? If so, it doesn't give the whole picture. Check out the Craft Shadow Piercing feat and it actually explains how the shadow piercings work.