pets and stealing


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I am a Barbarian that has an unusual fascination with rats. He wants to get one as a pet. I was thinking of making this rat's purpose a burglar.

How does the stealing mechanic work with pets?

Also, I am extremely new to pathfinder and d&d in general, but have the basics down fairly well.

Grand Lodge

Liahkim wrote:

I am a Barbarian that has an unusual fascination with rats. He wants to get one as a pet. I was thinking of making this rat's purpose a burglar.

How does the stealing mechanic work with pets?

You'll need to teach the rat a trick (see the Handle Animal skill) to tell him when to steal an item. I'd accept "fetch" from the core rulebook, or Animal Archive may have a more specific trick that applies. He'll then make Stealth and Sleight of Hand skill checks, in the same way that a character would, to take the item without being noticed.


Starglim wrote:
Liahkim wrote:

I am a Barbarian that has an unusual fascination with rats. He wants to get one as a pet. I was thinking of making this rat's purpose a burglar.

How does the stealing mechanic work with pets?

You'll need to teach the rat a trick (see the Handle Animal skill) to tell him when to steal an item. I'd accept "fetch" from the core rulebook, or Animal Archive may have a more specific trick that applies. He'll then make Stealth and Sleight of Hand skill checks, in the same way that a character would, to take the item without being noticed.

Thanks!

Would the rat need to use sleight of hand checks if I told it to go get that potion sitting on the ground behind the counter or would that be more like fetch?

Grand Lodge

Liahkim wrote:
Would the rat need to use sleight of hand checks if I told it to go get that potion sitting on the ground behind the counter or would that be more like fetch?

Either way the barbarian makes a Handle Animal check to order the rat to do the fetch trick.

If a human being would need a skill check for what the rat is doing, the rat must make that skill check. Picking up a potion from behind the counter with no-one watching might not need any further checks.

Shadow Lodge

There's actually a "general purpose" for this.

Quote:
Burglar (DC 25): An animal trained as a burglar knows the come, fetch, maneuver (steal), seek, and sneak tricks. You can order it to steal a specific item you point out.

Sneak trick = make stealth checks on command

Maneuver = perform a combat maneuver on command (in this case steal)

Note that performing the combat maneuver steal is not necessary for unattended items, which indeed seems to work through fetch (+ stealth) as Starglim describes.

Grand Lodge

With two feats, you can have a Rat Familiar.

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