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Not to sound uneducated but what benefits do we get from landrush anyway? Great demi-god of knowledge Nihimon where are you when I need you?
Short answer: a Settlement.
The Empyrean Order, Pax Aeternum, and The Seventh Veil have already been awarded a Settlement based on our showing in the first Land Rush Poll. Not counting us, the other Top 30 in the current Land Rush will also be awarded Settlements. Everyone else who wants one will have to clear a hex and build one from scratch.
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Presenting the great Unofficial PFO map, courtesy of Harad Navar.
There's also one on the GoblinWorks landrush page here, but Harad's is easier to work with, once you know which hexes are up for grabs.
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The Empyrean Order (TEO): NG, accepts LG, CG, and TN/NN
Settlement: Brighthaven (Won 1st Landrush)
Affiliations: Covenant of the Phoenix, Roseblood Accord
“Community betterment, protection of the weak, and promotion of justice.”
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Rwarrr!!! Positive Gameplay!!!!
Oh and Bump!
The Empyrean Order (TEO): NG, accepts LG, CG, and TN/NN
Settlement: Brighthaven (Won 1st Landrush)
Affiliations: Covenant of the Phoenix, Roseblood Accord
“Community betterment, protection of the weak, and promotion of justice.”
Join The Empyrean Order
Also, you can come join our website: HERE
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Honestly I would love to as I want to be a crafter and we have the numbers, one thing I think people are forgetting with regards to the land rush and angst over possible land grabs is we don't know how much the upkeep is going to be for settlements and when it will be implemented. I'm guessing there will not be costs until after poi buildings go up but I could be wrong, some starter settlements might be quickly lost if structures are not in place to maintain them. Especially as with all new characters all our skills are going to be far from optimal at gathering said resources... Possibly without poi enhancements either. I hope everyone is considering these points or could direct me to current developer thoughts on these dynmanics?
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I don't disagree but I also think they will be trying to balance their systems as we are playing, remember most of us will be jumping in for EE not a finished product so while I don't expect to see a settlement suddenly go poof overnight I think they will want those costs represented as soon as possible to test the system they have built. I think we will end up with a fairly bumpy first couple months of EE as everything shakes down and probably modular additions every quarter or so with attendant rough spots. I just hope they know how excited we are at the prospect of getting in game. Right now any news would be good news but no news is like watering- it was water wasn't it?- a gremlin.
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Not to sound uneducated but what benefits do we get from landrush anyway? Great demi-god of knowledge Nihimon where are you when I need you?Short answer: a Settlement.
Will there actually be any kind of structure at the site? I thought we were only getting a property claim and possibly a head start. We may still have to clear it of escalations. If there is tangible updated info, I sure wouldn't mind reading the long answer too.
To clarify: I don't expect settlements to enter the game until month X, and siege/destruction/capture to come a few months after that again.
This means a few months (?) where settlements can be built but not attacked. (Maybe claiming new sites opens at the same time, maybe only landrush sites open for construction - don't know).
When settlement warfare is unleashed (around OE maybe?), having a well developed settlement with neighbors you know is going to be very different from taking a caravan of bulk goods into the wilderness and hoping you can hold an area long enough to get a stockade up.
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They said we would start with a Keep/Hall, as well as some DI boosting buildings, possibly a bank as well. They are also giving us some starting funds to use.
I figure that POIs/Outposts will be in shortly before Settlements, but Settlement Warfare won't be in until the very end of OE, they mentioned this in more than one place.
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Will there actually be any kind of structure at the site? I thought we were only getting a property claim and possibly a head start.Not to sound uneducated but what benefits do we get from landrush anyway? Great demi-god of knowledge Nihimon where are you when I need you?Short answer: a Settlement.
Here's Lee's statement about it:
The basic plan, highly subject to change once the settlement system gets actually up and running, is that settlements won in the land rush will start with a Hall/Keep (i.e. the first and central building every settlement needs) and a selection of always useful support buildings (banks, possibly some development index boosters, and such) and a bundle of resources. Everyone else will have to go clear out a hex from any hostiles that may hold it, gather the resources to build a hall (bulk goods, company influence, money), spend the time building the hall, etc.
This leads me to believe that the very same day that all the Land Rush winners get their Settlements, everyone else will be able to begin the process of clearing their own Settlement sites.
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Well Empyrean Lords are kinda angelic gods, aren't they ? I'm not sure ?
The Empyreal lords are ultra-powerful good-aligned beings from the outer planes whom are worshiped as gods. They can grant followers spells as the regular Golarion Pantheon.
There are four sub-sects of empyreal lords, based on their celestial heritage. These races include:
Agathions, Angels, Archons and Azatas
All of the Lords reside within Eylsium, Heaven or Nirvana.
This information comes from, and more information can be found within the pages of the PAIZO product Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Chronicle of the Righteous, written by Amber Scott.
Brax the Sage, TEO.
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That was the last bit of info I have seen on settlements as well which is why I made the comment about resources. Do we get a bundle of 1 months resources to maintain the settlement? 3 months? We don't know and we also don't know how much time gathering those resources will take at start of EE with unoptimized characters. I would love to see some of these features start to be filled out. I have a vision of jumping on at the start if EE running down to or settlement and seeing everyone mining ores and clearing trees because our starter resources were only like 5 days of upkeep for settlement.
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I'm hopeful that we'll be able to build Points-of-Interest and Outposts before Settlements, so that we can start gathering and stockpiling the bulk resources we'll need for the upkeep of our Settlement.
Heh, that could get interesting... rings of PoIs situated around the land rush hexes, just waiting for the actual settlement to be dropped in.
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I'm hopeful that we'll be able to build Points-of-Interest and Outposts before Settlements, so that we can start gathering and stockpiling the bulk resources we'll need for the upkeep of our Settlement.
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If Alpha starts Real Soon Now,and if Alpha runs 5 weeks,
and if EE then starts around middle/late July,
and if Land Rush (grab) runs 10 Sundays, starting June 1 tending August 3,
then there swill be a couple of weeks of EE before settlement to invest in founding POIs
providing content for Aragon.
Those (such as I think yourself) who are in Alpha may well be able to direct their companies ( other companies of their settlement) in how to collect what is needed for POI.
I might even expect that TSV, in their knowledge gathering mode, provide such information and advise to a wider community.
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There will be a reset after Alpha so no stockpiling will be allowed. From the tone of the dev blogs I think they don't want to delay EE even if they have had some slowdowns to getting alpha up. Obviously if something major breaks they will probably reassess but my take on their statements on EE and crowdforging are that if EE start is rough they will take their lumps and press on. In other words it seems the start of EE will emerge fuzzily from alpha rather than a hard transition from one to the other in terms of a difference in the product.
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The Empyreal Lords aren't just super powerful, they are a actually demigods on par with Demon Lords, Arch Devils, and so on. Additionally, as demigods they can bestow spells to worshipers. They can be any of the three good alignments and are widely diverse in their beliefs, goals, and methods of dealing with evil...so yes, quite a few of us believe they are an excellent representation of TEO as a whole.