Whats the max damage you can do at lvl 7? no magic items, no buffs, just flat damage with feats, class abilitys and no crit

[The Beard]

I don't know that the thread is necessarily absurd considering that I do have one of these sorcerers, and it is active in Society play right now. Mind you it's only level 5, but it was able to blast holes through a CR14 creature that the party was not supposed to defeat without a special form of help. Being able to cast all fire evocation spells at two levels higher than normal pays off pretty good. Character is a gnomish crossblood sorcerer with the pyromaniac trait and varisian tattoo.

It honestly doesn't take much to make spellcasters that absolutely decimate things the party would not otherwise be able to put a dent in.

[Kazandra]

Helpless, living target + coup de grace and a failed save =

Sweet death.

I know...technically it's an auto critical followed by a save that if failed equates to death, so it's not technically "damage", but even if the target has 1000 hit points, it still dies from the failed save.

[bfobar]

I thought there was a build that involved dimension door and a familiar with a sack full of acid flasks to dump on the enemy that did a zillion points of damage.

[insaneogeddon]

insaneogeddon wrote:

Samuri Sword Saint - 2h power attack + arcane strike + specialization + challenge (level or level x 1.5 if dwarf) + str x 1.5 + 4d6 iajutsu strike + shaken effect + potential order bonus

(The combo of 'sneak attack', specialization, and challenge.. is hard to beat.)

Or if you can hack being a selfless mercy granting law abiding paladin,ANY single class pally build above with warrior of the holy light archetype and some extra lay on hands feats and from ultimate magic ....

Radiant Charge
When you charge, you do so with the power of faith.
Prerequisite: Lay on hands class feature.
Benefit: When you hit with a charge attack, you can expend all of your remaining uses of lay on hands to deal extra damage equal to 1d6 per use of lay on hands expended + your Charisma bonus. This damage comes from holy power and is not subject to damage reduction, energy immunities, or energy resistances.

Or

My beloved : Kebbett the Jackal : Suli Ranger (Shape Shifter (form of the jackal) + Freebooter) 6, Living Monolith 1 worshipper of Curchanus and follower of the old order)
http://dnd.educatedgamer.net/wiki/religion-1/churchanus
1. Exotic W. B/S, 2B W.Foc, 3. P.Attack, 3B. Endurance, 5. Iron Will, 6B Vital Strike, 7. Furious Focus
Enlarged = 20 str x 1.5, + 2H power attack, + d6 swarm eating elemental energy, + 2 freebooter at will bane move action thingy, with a large bastard sword enlarged and with lead blades cast and vital striking is a mere 8d8 base damage.

Really need to post already obvious numbers don't we ..

I like that the thread doesn't bother with the little things so gives a better general gist (for some)than cherry equipment heavy threads.

Samuri Sword Saint d8 +6 PA + 2 arcane strike + 2 specialization + challenge 12 if dwarf + 18 str x 1.5 = +6 + 14 iajutsu strike + 2 order bonus = 66.5 (64.5)
(really the order bonus is better spent on breadth of character and robustness)

Paladin Warrior of the holy light
1.Power attack, 3 Extra Lay on Hands, 5 Radiant Charge, 7 Extra Lay on Hands
say 18 str and 14 chr. Lay on hands = chr 2+half lev 3+4extra+Warrior of the holy light 1 = 10
2d6+ 6 PA + 6 str + 10d6 Radiant Charge +2 charisma
(+7 if smite) = 56 (63)

Suli freebooter monolith
8d8+7str+6PA+d6energy+2bane = 55.5

All these WILL hit, and apart from the paladin can be done for all combats in most situations. Their not situational or contingent on SR or energy immunity or even trading full attacks.

As has been mentioned level 7 is a weak level for martials so other classes might seem stronger when compared at this level and ignoring hit chance, opportunity cost and set up cost.

[haruhiko88]

MagusJanus wrote:

20d6, for a maximum of 120 damage. Only requires falling damage.

Of course, I probably would have to grab them and jump... but it would still be one hit!

Did that with a half elven barbarian (hurler) 2/ ragechemist 5 with a houserule that lets cannonballs count as ammunition for the explosive missile discovery and several ways to increase my throwing range two handed with a cannonball. And it was delightful and I'm not allowed to do it again no matter how much fun it was playing the hulk on a temper tantrum with easy access to explosives.

I think the max damage might be a cavalier (gendarme) archetype. 18 str for +6 power attack for +6 (two handing a lance) + 7 for challenge +2 (order of the cockatrice challenge ability) now wrap that up, multiply it by 3 and then of course the lance which normally hits for 1d10 (heavy lance) for 3d10+63 for an average damage of 79.5 after all the OP did say no magic items or buffs.

EDIT: Did my math wrong, sorry.

[Sarrah]

and no attributes like strength altering the damage outcome.

[Jadeite]

Phantasmal Killer

[Sarrah]

I might be wrong in some places: quickly rushed through this character creation.

*In my games, I rule that added strength bonuses that add 50% to damage do not multiply (+50% + 50% = + 100%; not +125%).
L1 Synthesist (+1 BAB)
Slam (d8)
Slam (d8)
Improved Damage (Slam) d8 --> 2d6
Increased Strength +2

(Human) Feral Combat Training allows natural weapons to be used with styles
(L1) Improved Natural Attack (slam) (2d6 --> 3d6)
(L3) Tiger Style
(L5) Power Attack
(L7) Vital Strike

Strength Damage:
Normal: 100% main hand // 50% off hand
Monk: +50% offhand
Dragon Style: +50% main hand
Dragon Ferocity: +50% main hand and offhand
Tiger Style: slashing or bludgeoning damage with offhand / crits do 1d4 bleed
Tiger Claw: full round action to make single attack using both main hand and offhand: roll damage separately, if using Power attack, only one of the two hands gets the extra 50% to damage. Free bulrush – no aoo.
Power Attack: -2 to attack, +6 main hand/+4 offhand to damage

Human
L1 Synthesist (Summoner Archetype)
L2 Gendarme (Cavalier Archetype): Spirited Charge bonus feat
L3 Unarmed Fighter (Fighter Archetype): Dragon Style + Improved Unarmed Strike bonus feats
L4 Master of Many Styles (Monk Archetype): Dragon Ferocity + Stunning Fist bonus feat
L5 Master of Many Styles (Monk Archetype): Tiger Claws bonus feat
L6 Unarmed Fighter (Fighter Archetype): Elemental Fist bonus feat
L7 Barbarian (+4 strength / con while raging) (+6 BAB)

Single Strike Total: [(+6 Strength: 2 synthesist/4 rage) [200% main hand strength + 3d6 (main hand strike)//150% offhand strength + 3d6 (offhand strike)] (Tiger Claws) +10 (Power Attack) + free bullrush (no aoo) +6d6 Vital Strike +1d6 electricity (Elemental Fist)]x2 (Spirited Charge) (176 cap: does not include strength damage)