Sidestep is it OP?


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Here's the linky link.

So, is sidestep overpowered? Should this be allowed? I get that it takes your swift/immediate action, and that PP are not exactly endless (especially with Psionic Warriors!!!)... but to make someone auto miss? Is there a comparable spell or class feature that the core classes have?


Just to clarify it DOES say "attack from a melee weapon". So no ranged weapons, and no spells (unless tat spell manifests a melee weapon ie Spitual Weapon or Call Weapon)

So your not a god... but pretty darn close.

Please correct me if I'm understanding this wrong, or if you find anymore loopholes to toss my DM.

THANKS

Sczarni

It's not OP at all. It's perfectly fair. It also only occurs after an opponent misses, which makes it even more of a gamble.

If it were an immediate interrupt, and used when being targeted with a melee attack; That would be OP.


This question seems inappropriate for the Homebrew subforum. Maybe General Discussion?


you must not have opened the link. It's not the feat. It's the Psionic Power called Sidestep.

Homebrew because psionics were done by Dreamscarred Press. As amazing as they are, they're still just 3rd party, and therefor homebrewed.


It's 3 pp to make a single melee attack miss...I wouldn't called it overpowered.


Sidestep the feat i feel is a terrible waste of a feat for anyone other than a fighter traveling with several rogues. The waste on an immediate action to make that simple movement is not only bad for the action economy, but also makes you lose your 5' step.

Sidestep feat in all it's uselessness.:
example: O= open square, Y= you, B= bad guy, R= rogue

Y O O
O B R
O O O

Bad guy attacks (standard or full-attack) you and misses, you make immediate action to setup the rogue for sneak attack.

O O O
Y B R
O O O

Bad guy makes free 5' step to say, 'you made a poor selection of a feat dumby'.

O B O
Y O R
O O O

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or

O O O O O
O O O O O
O Y O B R
O O O O O
O O O O O

Bad guy attacks (standard or full-attack) you with a reach weapon and misses, you make immediate action to setup the rogue for sneak attack, and/or disrupt his ability to continue attacking with his full-attack with a reach weapon.

O O O O O
O O O O O
O O Y B R
O O O O O
O O O O O

He takes a free 5' step and continues to attack with his full-attack and laughs at your efforts.

O O O O O
O O O O B
O O Y O R
O O O O O
O O O O O

Sorry for the tangent, just wanted to point out how that feat is the furthest thing from OP.


cannon fodder wrote:
It's 3 pp to make a single melee attack miss...I wouldn't called it overpowered.

Let's compare to the Elan of the Protector archetype of the Psionic Warrior's resilience ability.

3 pp = 6 hp.

or combine the two for 3pp = 9hp.

Hell thow in the old Elan Resilience feat from 3.5 and put it all together for 3pp = 15 hp.

But when a cloud giant attacks with a two-handed hug sized greatsword after you just spellcrafted he cast True Strike last round... you spend 3 pp to thwart that attack perfectly???

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Are there and core abilities that are at all close to this?

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