Human Bane + Elf Bane Weapons vs Half-Elves?

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Okay, first question is of course is it legal to put more than one bane on a single weapon, so in this case make a weapon that has both human bane and elf bane on it?

Second, assuming the above is legal, since half-elves count as both humans and elves for all effects related to race (because they are both human and elf subtype,) what happens?

Do you get a +4 bonus, or is does it not stack?

The reason I am not sure is because it says the enhancement bonus is two higher, not that it gets a +2 enhancement bonus... so I could see a ruling on stacking go either way.

[gravalpea]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote:

Okay, first question is of course is it legal to put more than one bane on a single weapon, so in this case make a weapon that has both human bane and elf bane on it?

Second, assuming the above is legal, since half-elves count as both humans and elves for all effects related to race (because they are both human and elf subtype,) what happens?

Do you get a +4 bonus, or is does it not stack?

The reason I am not sure is because it says the enhancement bonus is two higher, not that it gets a +2 enhancement bonus... so I could see a ruling on stacking go either way.

From the FAQ:

Bane: Can I apply multiple bane special abilities to the same weapon? If so, do their effects stack?

You can apply multiple bane special abilities to the same weapon. For example, you can have a +1 dragon- and fey-bane longsword, which has an increased enhancement bonus and damage against dragons and against fey.

If you have multiple bane effects on a weapon and attack a creature against which more than one bane applies (such as a chaotic- and evil-outsider bane weapon used against a demon), the effects do not stack: the weapon's enhancement bonus is only +2 higher than its actual enhancement bonus, and it only deals +2d6 points of damage against that opponent.

(Compare to fighter weapon training or ranger favored enemy bonuses, both of which say you use the highest bonus if more than one bonus applies.)

—Pathfinder Design Team, 11/13/13

:)

[Happler]

Link to the FAQ to help out:
FAQ

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Ah, haha okay thanks guys! :) Guess I should have checked the FAQ before I asked LOL. Derp.

[Kazaan]

when it says the enhancement bonus is "two higher", it's a bonus to your bonus (you dawg). So if you have a +2 Bane(Elf) Longsword, normally the +2 enhancement gives you +2 attack and damage against common targets. But, against a creature with the Elf subtype (including core Elves, Drow, Half-Elves, and any custom race using the Elf subtype), it bumps that +2 up to an effective +4. Now, if you had both Bane(Human) and Bane(Elf) on the weapon, you don't get to double-dip. It still just bumps the +2 up to a +4, but against more targets. Elf Bane and Human Bane may overlap at Half-Elf, but the Human Bane will affect Humans, Half-Orcs, and Scion of Humanity Aasimar as well.