Continuum


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A bunch of terrorists who blew up a building escape execution by traveling back in time from the year 2077, when corporations are the government. A cop overseeing the execution is sent back with them and tries to track them down while she's trying to keep up the masquerade and avoid changing history so that her son doesn't cease to exist.

The series does a nice job with the law vs good and terrorist vs freedom fighter themes

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I was ambivalently rooting for Liber8, until i saw how the future gets its cheap factory workers... after that if you need to level a few cities then you need need to level a few cities, no questions asked
. The side characters are complicated and have a good deal of background and development. The plot gets a little convoluted, but I'm hoping its leading somewhere at this point.

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Maybe ill come back to this. I stopped watching when yet another sci-fi show travels back in time to not be too much sci-fi. Kind of tired of that schtick.


I'm rather fond of Continuum. Though maybe I liked it a little better in season 1.

Either way, the two highlights for me was that:

1) I got the sense that the writers had actually sat down and though about how time travel should work in the show (and also that the in-show characters have no idea, so they experiment with various theories).

2) I really like how the protagonist, who is fighting these "evul nutjob terrorists", is actually the representative of a pretty dystopic police state, and her effort to ensure that Liber8 doesn't mess with the future is totally misguided. It's a neat twist.

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Kinda got bored. The music annoyed me for some reason and the acting didn't really amaze me.

Mostly watched it because of Rachel Nicols

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Slaunyeh wrote:
2) I really like how the protagonist, who is fighting these "evul nutjob terrorists", is actually the representative of a pretty dystopic police state, and her effort to ensure that Liber8 doesn't mess with the future is totally misguided. It's a neat twist.

I wouldn't really say that her efforts are totally misguided. It's been shown that she was doubting the system well before she got zapped back in time. Her efforts to preserve her timeline aren't based on her trying to keep the status quo of the goverment...she wasn't to make sure that her son doesn't get reconned out of existence.


Kthulhu wrote:
I wouldn't really say that her efforts are totally misguided. It's been shown that she was doubting the system well before she got zapped back in time. Her efforts to preserve her timeline aren't based on her trying to keep the status quo of the goverment...she wasn't to make sure that her son doesn't get reconned out of existence.

Well fine, I don't like it then. Thanks. :p


Kthulhu wrote:
.she wasn't to make sure that her son doesn't get reconned out of existence.

But to do that she's willing to have the future that she came from exist?

She's the villain here.

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Well, also in her defense, the Liber8 folks don't exactly put their message forward in a way that makes anyone want to support them.

And yeah, I'd probably chose my own son over a bunch of faceless people I've never met. As would most humans.


Kthulhu wrote:
Well, also in her defense, the Liber8 folks don't exactly put their message forward in a way that makes anyone want to support them.

In the badfuture they don't have any way to put it out. The corporate congress controls speech and they're starting to control thoughts. When they get to the present and have free internet they start getting a lot smarter about it and start some grassroots organizing.

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IE the tens of thousands of people liber8 killed in the future were Either already dead or in a living hell that death would be an escape from, and mass producing enough mind control chips to take over the planet. The protagonist is either unaware of this or is sociopathically indoctrinated as to the fate of those who didn't do their "Fair share"

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And yeah, I'd probably chose my own son over a bunch of faceless people I've never met. As would most humans.

Understandable evil isn't much less evil.

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If i had to pick between my son and the lives of ten thousand complete strangers, i would pick my son, in a heartbeat. Does that make me evil?

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Well, also in her defense, the Liber8 folks don't exactly put their message forward in a way that makes anyone want to support them.
In the badfuture they don't have any way to put it out. The corporate congress controls speech and they're starting to control thoughts. When they get to the present and have free internet they start getting a lot smarter about it and start some grassroots organizing.

Except their method before Kagame showed up in the past was to kill a lot of people and sort of vaguely hint at their motives, kinda.

Ah well, doesn't really matter, since season 3 is probably going to end up being Cameron and Liber8 vs the Freelancers (assuming that's the group who grabbed EVERYONE and stuck them in Time-Prison).


Hama wrote:
If i had to pick between my son and the lives of ten thousand complete strangers, i would pick my son, in a heartbeat. Does that make me evil?

Probably. Definitely makes you the villain though. (see Cersei in a game of thrones)

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Villain I am then...I'll always put people that matter to me in front of people I do not know.


Keep in mind that the knowledge of those mind control factory camps seems pretty restricted in the future. As far as the protagonist is concerned, she just things helpless people were massacred, not slaves.

Also...we are not given information on whether the mind control chips were reversible or not. Theseus may have had other options than blowing them up.


MMCJawa wrote:

Keep in mind that the knowledge of those mind control factory camps seems pretty restricted in the future. As far as the protagonist is concerned, she just things helpless people were massacred, not slaves.

Also...we are not given information on whether the mind control chips were reversible or not. Theseus may have had other options than blowing them up.

I doubt they were reversible for a few reasons.

The sentence was life.

The raid seemed more "hit and run" than "stay and set up a medical and research facility"

Even moral questions aside, I can't see Theseus giving up the chance to recruit 10s of thousand of people who would really, REAAAAAAAALLY hate the corporate congress if he could have just shut the chips off.

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