I have a question on Clerics


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Specifically I have a player playing as a cleric of Sarenrae and I want for them to end up transported into the Forgotten Realms, but I was thinking about this and wondering, because his deity doesn't exist in the Realms would he be completely useless?


You could just say Sarenrae here's his prayers all the way from Faerun, or you could pick a FR deity with similar portfolio and say that is Sarenrae as she is known in FR,


Roby1Kenobi wrote:
Specifically I have a player playing as a cleric of Sarenrae and I want for them to end up transported into the Forgotten Realms, but I was thinking about this and wondering, because his deity doesn't exist in the Realms would he be completely useless?

I play a Cleric in a situation similar to this. Heres how the DM worked it.

I ended up on this hellish world after dying because my deity (Lathander) wanted to send a champion to try and liberate it. Now this world existed far from the Forgotten Realms, through a planar access through the Plane of Shadow. Hypothetically I could return through the Plane of Shadow, but my character currently does not have that goal in mind. In that game, I've met folks from other worlds, one of which was a Gunslinger from Alkenstar in Golarion.

We like to think of all the Planes being the same, but there are also many different material planes with which you could access if you knew of them, the way and it is very difficult.

In my particular instance, the material plane I'm on now has a particular affinity towards the Plane of Shadow. By going to the Plane of Shadow I can then planeshift back to the Forgotten Realms.

I almost forgot. My character was a character from an older game that was higher level than he is now. His death and distance from his deity weakened him considerably. He dropped in like 6 levels. As he adventures and draws faith in himself and his god he grows in power(leveling up).

If you don't want them to drop in level, I recommend another good deity grants them power for their stay.


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If you don't want them to drop in level, I recommend another good deity grants them power for their stay.

I think this is probably what I'll go with


Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
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If you don't want them to drop in level, I recommend another good deity grants them power for their stay.
I think this is probably what I'll go with

Good luck with your game! =)


IIRC, unlike the Forgotten Realms, most major gods have power across all dimensions, not just Golarion (and its surrounding universe), besides minor gods and some of the more specific ones (like Aroden was).

Gods of concepts (which Sarenrae is, for Redemption and Light) just go by different names elsewhere.


Any suggestion on which Forgotten Realms deity would be the best match, please bear in mind in my Realms Mystra wasn't assassinated and thus the Spellplague and all of that 4E awfulness has never happened.


Lathander


Khrysaor wrote:
Lathander

=)

A part of me smiled when I saw this thread.


Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Specifically I have a player playing as a cleric of Sarenrae and I want for them to end up transported into the Forgotten Realms, but I was thinking about this and wondering, because his deity doesn't exist in the Realms would he be completely useless?

Just say that it's the faith, not the god, that matters.


Zhayne wrote:
Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Specifically I have a player playing as a cleric of Sarenrae and I want for them to end up transported into the Forgotten Realms, but I was thinking about this and wondering, because his deity doesn't exist in the Realms would he be completely useless?
Just say that it's the faith, not the god, that matters.

As much as I would love to do that it kind of implies that an insane man that truly believes is pet Turtle is a god would be able to pray to it for clerical spells

Shadow Lodge

Khrysaor wrote:
Lathander

^This. Lathander is the Forgotten Realms sun diety. Sarenrae is the Golarion sun diety.


Jacob Saltband wrote:
Khrysaor wrote:
Lathander
^This. Lathander is the Forgotten Realms sun diety. Sarenrae is the Golarion sun diety.

You may feel a certain desire to hunt down and scourge all undead.


Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Zhayne wrote:
Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Specifically I have a player playing as a cleric of Sarenrae and I want for them to end up transported into the Forgotten Realms, but I was thinking about this and wondering, because his deity doesn't exist in the Realms would he be completely useless?
Just say that it's the faith, not the god, that matters.
As much as I would love to do that it kind of implies that an insane man that truly believes is pet Turtle is a god would be able to pray to it for clerical spells

All hail the mighty turtle!

He'll come with the protection and insanity domains, ofc. He's also far more active in his priest affairs than any other god is! His preist is also closer to his god than any other priest is. Comes with plenty of perks!

In other news... Hey! Whatever happens is up to you, your the GM right? So you could have Saranrae work, try to find a deity of its closeness, make up a new one, etc... Lots of solutions, but really up to you. Might want to ask the player what he likes and be a little meta if your group is cool with it. Suddenly going from Salune to Tyr might be more of a peeve than anything really.


Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Zhayne wrote:
Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Specifically I have a player playing as a cleric of Sarenrae and I want for them to end up transported into the Forgotten Realms, but I was thinking about this and wondering, because his deity doesn't exist in the Realms would he be completely useless?
Just say that it's the faith, not the god, that matters.
As much as I would love to do that it kind of implies that an insane man that truly believes is pet Turtle is a god would be able to pray to it for clerical spells

He can. Insanity not required.

Shadow Lodge

Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
please bear in mind in my Realms Mystra wasn't assassinated. . .

Why would you do that to your players? Or anyone.

Scarab Sages

Jacob Saltband wrote:
Khrysaor wrote:
Lathander
^This. Lathander is the Forgotten Realms sun diety. Sarenrae is the Golarion sun diety.

Lathander got replaced by Amaunator during the transition between 3.5 and 4th, so depending on what source books you're using that might be different; assuming you're using the ol' 3.5 FR Campaign Setting Lathander would be correct.


DM Beckett wrote:
Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
please bear in mind in my Realms Mystra wasn't assassinated. . .
Why would you do that to your players? Or anyone.

Why would I do what? Ignore 4E? Because I'm sane... well sort of


Grimmy wrote:
You could just say Sarenrae here's his prayers all the way from Faerun, or you could pick a FR deity with similar portfolio and say that is Sarenrae as she is known in FR,

She's basically genderswapped Pelor anyway. It'll work just fine.


Craft Cheese wrote:
Grimmy wrote:
You could just say Sarenrae here's his prayers all the way from Faerun, or you could pick a FR deity with similar portfolio and say that is Sarenrae as she is known in FR,
She's basically genderswapped Pelor anyway. It'll work just fine.

Complete with suggestive burning hate!


MrSin wrote:
Craft Cheese wrote:
Grimmy wrote:
You could just say Sarenrae here's his prayers all the way from Faerun, or you could pick a FR deity with similar portfolio and say that is Sarenrae as she is known in FR,
She's basically genderswapped Pelor anyway. It'll work just fine.
Complete with suggestive burning hate!

Hooray!


MrSin wrote:
Complete with suggestive burning hate!

Sarenrae the Burning Hate has canon support? Hmm, I must hear more...

Shadow Lodge

Pelor is a GreyHawk deity is he not?


Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Zhayne wrote:
Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Specifically I have a player playing as a cleric of Sarenrae and I want for them to end up transported into the Forgotten Realms, but I was thinking about this and wondering, because his deity doesn't exist in the Realms would he be completely useless?
Just say that it's the faith, not the god, that matters.
As much as I would love to do that it kind of implies that an insane man that truly believes is pet Turtle is a god would be able to pray to it for clerical spells

If this was a Terry Pratchett's Small Gods reference... *high five*

I'm thinking it's not thought. :(


RayFinkle wrote:
Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Zhayne wrote:
Malcolm Bookchild wrote:
Specifically I have a player playing as a cleric of Sarenrae and I want for them to end up transported into the Forgotten Realms, but I was thinking about this and wondering, because his deity doesn't exist in the Realms would he be completely useless?
Just say that it's the faith, not the god, that matters.
As much as I would love to do that it kind of implies that an insane man that truly believes is pet Turtle is a god would be able to pray to it for clerical spells

If this was a Terry Pratchett's Small Gods reference... *high five*

I'm thinking it's not thought. :(

Nope, never heard of it, have heard a lot of good things about him though

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