I'll be happy when its 2015... With all the robot hype passed.
I don't want to see Rabids. They have to mock everyone and grab on to their weapons and such. Some gamer hater will want to play one.
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I'll be happy when its 2015... With all the robot hype passed.
I want Daleks and Cybermen in Bestiary 5.
Not really, I dislike mixing scifi and fantasy.
To address the name issue, I agree that some names get to be difficult to pronounce. I don't have a problem though if some other "slang term" is included which locals refer to the creature as.
For example: "The Xabãzhutsiioy'khphh, also known as a 'lava toad' by the tribesmen of the Mwangi expanse, is not actually related to the toad..."
For intelligent creatures, I wouldn't mind an entry that differentiates the name the creature uses for its own species versus the name humans use to describe it.
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I agree that there are too many demons, devils, gremlins, dragons and giants. I also don't think we need too many more good-aligned outsiders. Undead too- a lot of undead that we've been seeing seem to me like the company has been scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Don't want to see as many high-CR monsters. There are templates and class levels that increase CR but such things generally don't reduce CR. Therefore it seems to me that CR needs to be skewed a bit lower. Also, most new campaigns start at level 1 but many don't finish, which means that really high level monsters will be seen less often.
Really the design team should not worry about page count so much... they should instead only approve monsters that are really outstanding, and reject the ones that will probably only get used once in a campaign, if that. If they are waiting until 2015 to publish then they can probably do that.
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Vod Canockers said scifi, not robots.
I'll be happy when its 2015... With all the robot hype passed.I want Daleks and Cybermen in Bestiary 5.
Not really, I dislike mixing scifi and fantasy.
Neither are technically robots.
Cybermen are cyborg humanoids.
Daleks are aberrations that are most often encountered in their battle armor.
True enough, but there are very few true robots in science fiction, and I had just finished watching the 50th Anniversary Doctor Who show.
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I'd prefer not to see any more Lovecraftian/Cthulhu critters. I know that they are very popular with some of the devs, but I have more than enough thank you very much.
Also, I could stand a few less Colossal things. It felt like (even if it wasn't true) that the last bestiary was full of these enormous things roaming about.
I'd prefer not to see any more Lovecraftian/Cthulhu critters. I know that they are very popular with some of the devs, but I have more than enough thank you very much.
Also, I could stand a few less Colossal things. It felt like (even if it wasn't true) that the last bestiary was full of these enormous things roaming about.
To be honest, as far as public domain goes, there really isn't a whole lot left. Nearly all the monsters are now in bestiaries and all the old ones are
For the most part, most of the remainder would require copyright negotiation, and would more likely show up in an AP or other non-hardcover book.
What Bestiary 5 shouldn't have
more Demons, Devils and Daemons, we have enough of those
more true dragons, we have enough of those
more giants, we have plenty
I don't understand the Daemon thing, I mean they are just in 2 of th 4 books, and in one book there were only 2 new ones...
I really want the most awesome of deamons (Sangu and Phasmadaemons to shine in bestiary 5)
Also I agree SOOOOOOO much with the COlossal thing, ok bestiary 4 was the colossal bestiary, now enough with those. Only some more Kaiju would be fun.
But no more Behemoth's, really Kaiju eat their heart out.
So what is left of the Lovecraft creatures that is public domain?
I wouldn't mind a break from colossal creatures myself not including Kaiju, Titans, Tane and/or powerful creatures from myth like Fenrir.
I do not want any demons or devils, not big on daemons so wouldn't miss them if there weren't any in Bestiary 5.
Somebody mentioned Gem Dragons in the other topic, I do not want those as it kinda spoils the entire idea of the awesome Crystal Dragon.
They are too much Monster Manual 2 (D&D) too, so I don't think they can legally do it.
Or they have to go with Sugilite/or/Charoite Dragon, Dioptase Dragon, Rhodochrosite Dragon, Neptunite Dragon and Heliodore Dragon but I don't think people would like that, cuz those gems are much to special and cool for them, they rather stick with the overused boring gems such as Diamond, Ruby and Emerald, some people just miss all the fun because their brains can't handle too much originality, they are cursed to forever be stuck with the overused, easy-to-learn about cra#
Somebody mentioned Gem Dragons in the other topic, I do not want those as it kinda spoils the entire idea of the awesome Crystal Dragon.
They are too much Monster Manual 2 (D&D) too, so I don't think they can legally do it.
Or they have to go with Sugilite/or/Charoite Dragon, Dioptase Dragon, Rhodochrosite Dragon, Neptunite Dragon and Heliodore Dragon but I don't think people would like that, cuz those gems are much to special and cool for them, they rather stick with the overused boring gems such as Diamond, Ruby and Emerald, some people just miss all the fun because their brains can't handle too much originality, they are cursed to forever be stuck with the overused, easy-to-learn about cra#
The irony of the bolded part is just... staggering...
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Carry on! (^_')=b
My top 5 things I'm kinda tired of seeing in a bestiary are -
- demons
- giants
- "saurian/ophidian magical beast/aberration variant no.qq"
- drakes (I'd rather have dragons)
- "undead variant that's really just-like-a-previous-bestiary-entry no.xx" (yeah, yeah, it has a different name and different abilities - and is maybe even from a different real-word culture! - but there is little to tell them all apart without metagaming!)
Just my ¥1.
C.
<shrug> :p
The Bestiaries are still, overall, awesome!
They spoil my personal fun with their endless love for stuff that already have out-wore the spotlights. What is so funny about that? I know the fans of overused boring and bland stuff rule the world, but i'm still hoping such boring creatures/humans will go extinct eventually.
Anyway I agree on the drakes, I really wouldn't care for any drake species anymore, we've seen all elementals, landscapes and whatever else by now so there are just no more places drakes could live.
+ there aren't any mythological drakes out there, they are mostly dragons.
Maybe they should use Vanity Drake, Brainy Drake, Lazy Drake and all other Smurf-based Drakes next... I really can see Drakette and Papa Drake happening.
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Please dont go the way of monster manuals!
The ones where every creature gets 3 pages of lore and fluff to help you put it in campaign setting X, and an encounter map for good measure so you absolutely dont need to think up your own fights against the monster.
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If there will ever EVER be robots the size of Kaiju that can summon rocket launchers on their shoulders and steel blades from their pawns like in that horrid movie Pacific Rim in a Bestiary, I will never buy another product from Paizo EVER again. :-S
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If there will ever EVER be robots the size of Kaiju that can summon rocket launchers on their shoulders and steel blades from their pawns like in that horrid movie Pacific Rim in a Bestiary, I will never buy another product from Paizo EVER again. :-S
You.. you didn't like Pacific Rim?
Turn in your man-card.
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I like Pacific Rim, and I haven't seen it!
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If there will ever EVER be robots the size of Kaiju that can summon rocket launchers on their shoulders and steel blades from their pawns like in that horrid movie Pacific Rim in a Bestiary, I will never buy another product from Paizo EVER again. :-S
but.... i liked that movie. 3-6 Jaegers shouldn't ruin a bestiary when it has over 100+ other monsters that might be very appealing.
My biggest problem with (Dai)kaiju and things like the Jaegers is simply the fact that they would move so slow and have such horrible reaction times that you could take them out with a Civil War Era Cannon.
Also might I recommend modifying the Colossi for the Jaegers?
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My biggest problem with (Dai)kaiju and things like the Jaegers is simply the fact that they would move so slow and have such horrible reaction times that you could take them out with a Civil War Era Cannon.
Also might I recommend modifying the Colossi for the Jaegers?
sounds like a size penalty to AC to me.
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If there will ever EVER be robots the size of Kaiju that can summon rocket launchers on their shoulders and steel blades from their pawns like in that horrid movie Pacific Rim in a Bestiary, I will never buy another product from Paizo EVER again. :-SYou.. you didn't like Pacific Rim?
Turn in your man-card.
Seems like a great ticket for liberating Bestiary threads of the constant "no robotz with lazors but please include <insert unintelligible name of a creature from Japanese mythology that's basically a yellow mouse which shoots lightning and goes *pika pika*>.
Any humanoid whose description can best be described as Loli-goth...
I like Pacific Rim, and I haven't seen it!
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My players want to build a modified Clockwork Goliath for this very purpose.
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My players want to build a modified Clockwork Goliath for this very purpose.I like Pacific Rim, and I haven't seen it!
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Verces has to have something to offer there, especially since their build-a-kaiju project didn't pan out. :)
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If there are demigods in Bestiary 5, particularly empyreal lords, I don't want them to have gimped stats.
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If there will ever EVER be robots the size of Kaiju that can summon rocket launchers on their shoulders and steel blades from their pawns like in that horrid movie Pacific Rim in a Bestiary, I will never buy another product from Paizo EVER again. :-S
The Priests of Brigh are working on them now.
I'd prefer not to see any more Lovecraftian/Cthulhu critters. I know that they are very popular with some of the devs, but I have more than enough thank you very much.
Also, I could stand a few less Colossal things. It felt like (even if it wasn't true) that the last bestiary was full of these enormous things roaming about.
Agreed.
I really can't stand humans that really want giant robots with modern warfare in a bestiary full of magical monsters and constructs.
Really can't stand them, SAW-movie torture wouldn't be enough for me to punish them. >:-D
But I have faith in Paizo, I mean in bestiary 4 there were ZERO freaking robots, while people wished for them from the start of the wish-topics and even before that.
I'm sure they want to give people some robocop action but more from other products like one AP part and inside the more Golarion based bestiaries such as inner-sea bestiary.
I don't mind them there, as long as they don't mix in with the magical creatures of the bestiary I win.
And I don't even mind the robots from Inner Sea Bestiary that much, just the stupid huge rocketlaucher robots with humans inside them from Pacific Rim is what Í would be disgusted about.
I'm a great movie fan, but Pacific Rim was much to no-no for me... A waste for those actors as I love them in the Sons of Anarchy series.
Seems like a great ticket for liberating Bestiary threads of the constant "no robotz with lazors but please include <insert unintelligible name of a creature from Japanese mythology that's basically a yellow mouse which shoots lightning and goes *pika pika*>.If there will ever EVER be robots the size of Kaiju that can summon rocket launchers on their shoulders and steel blades from their pawns like in that horrid movie Pacific Rim in a Bestiary, I will never buy another product from Paizo EVER again. :-SYou.. you didn't like Pacific Rim?
Turn in your man-card.
You mean Raiju with the Pikachu thing? Its a mythological monster 10.000 years older than Pikachu, and its already inside the Paizo monsterlists, too bad for you, joke failed as Pikachu is based on Raiju, not the other way around. I still can't see your precious giant robots (sooo cool and manly) around anywhere, so it seems paizo agrees with me on this.
If you hate real-world mythology so much, just go play the Jar Jar Binks boardgame.
But the MOST funny thing is, Raiju is even in the movie Pacific Rim as Kaiju, so my question to you would be, did you even see Pacific Rim or are you just making profit from my hated-status to gain more fans?
I like Pacific Rim, and I haven't seen it!
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Ahhh poor soul, aren't the Colossi big enough for your American Spirit? Can it EVER be big enough for you?
Or didn't you see into Bestiary 4 as well... ;-)
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Pacific Rim was an awesome movie. However, I have no clue why people want giant science fiction robots in a game like Pathfinder. Science fiction really doesn't belong in a faux-medieval world of swords and sorcery.
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If there will ever EVER be robots the size of Kaiju that can summon rocket launchers on their shoulders and steel blades from their pawns like in that horrid movie Pacific Rim in a Bestiary, I will never buy another product from Paizo EVER again. :-SYou.. you didn't like Pacific Rim?
Turn in your man-card.
I crushed, burned and shred my man-card already when I was 4 years old, when I got my first Little Pony toys.
Well dear dear Unruly, you can laugh all you want. But paizo DOES have Robots in the Inner Sea Bestiary, so there is a difference between Robotos and Clockworks appearantly.
I'm not against clockworks, they aren't my favorites but I don't mind them, Pacific Rim robots however would be very different from clockworks cuz they have rocket launchers and humans inside them.
I would laugh if I ever see (in a freaking fantasy setting) some farmers or peasants go inside a giant robot shell with rocket launchers and guns to destroy the Minotaurs and Poleviks that treaten their lands.
The thought of it is just so hilaric that it also makes it pathetic.
Personally I didn't like Pacific Rim due to the lighting... all the fights were too dark I can barely see a thing.
+1 with the giants... there are so many giants I'm afraid to see giant from outer space/plane next time. (although it sounds slightly more interesting than landscape giant)
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Pacific Rim was an awesome movie. However, I have no clue why people want giant science fiction robots in a game like Pathfinder. Science fiction really doesn't belong in a faux-medieval world of swords and sorcery.
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Pacific Rim was an awesome movie. However, I have no clue why people want giant science fiction robots in a game like Pathfinder. Science fiction really doesn't belong in a faux-medieval world of swords and sorcery.Because for me Sci-Fantasy was where I got my gaming start. So I disagree and say it belongs, it belongs so well. Viva La Magitek!!
Word.
Fantasy doesn't stop being fantasy when a robot or a spaceship or a motorcycle or a gun or whatever else shows up.
And those elements don't make something science fiction either.