Paragon surge and extra discovery


Rules Questions


Up front caveat that I kinda hate Paragon Surge but I want to know how this stuff works RAW.

Can you cast Paragon Surge and take extra discovery with the free feat and pick any discovery you qualify for? If so, what happens in the following situations:

Could the alchemist grab combine extracts and whip up a bunch of combined extracts (up to 1/lvl b/c of time limit) with unused spell slots? Would they stay combined extracts once paragon surge wore off?

Could the alchemist grab enhance potion and suck down an int mod number of potions at caster level? Would the effects stay at caster level once paragon surge wore off? What if he does it again? Is his int mod cap used up or is it refreshed because he lost and re-gained enhance potion?

Could the alchemist grab poison conversion and change the form of 1 poison / lvl (time limit again)? What happens when paragon surge wears off? Are the poisons still in their new form?

Thanks.


1. I think they would stay, all that matters is what you had when you created the extracts, since they work more like potions than spells you cast.

2. This one is trickier. I have no idea what the RAW is, really. I would say that the CL effect remains, and since it is the same discovery no matter how many times he un-learns and re-learns it, the cap of his int mod would remain as a daily limit.

3. The poisons would remain changed, definitely. It is not even a temporary change. Once you convert them to the new form, they are that form.


Yeah, I was thinking the same but I wanted to check.

...Man paragon surge is powerful.


Still not even 1/100th of the power and versatility a Sorcerer or Oracle gets out of it. Using it just to get feats or class feature feats seems almost cute by comparison to pulling nearly any spell in the game out of your ass whenever its needed.

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