Refuge

[2bz2p]

A debate has started over the spell Refuge that has layers of intrigue like an onion when you unravel it.

The basic query is: Is this spell attuned to the willing recipient of the refuge item only, or to whomever has the item and uses the command word(s)?

If it is the latter, can one who successfully probes the mind of the item's owner, garners the password, and obtains the Refuge item use it?

And if this is so, can one who comes into possession of a Refuge item Use Magic Device to trick the item into performing its function without actually knowing the password?

[Diego Rossi]

1) It say: " you [the creator] must give it willingly to a creature and at the same time inform it of a command word to be spoken when the item is used.", so the current owner can't pass it to any other person.

2) It isn't a magic item, it is a permanent spell. Spells aren't subject to UMD.

[2bz2p]

Thanks for that on #2 - I have hard time discerning between spells on an item and a magic item, so that helps a lot. I also lean to your POV on it being for a specific creature, but there is room in the description to make you wonder if it could be used by another. If no one else adds a different opinion, I'm going with your view!

[The Diplomat]

Bump.

Is there any other opinions on this question? We having this argument in our group.