Goblinworks Blog: Just Keep Truckin'


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Goblin Squad Member

Thanks for this blog. All these money were put to good use it seems! Keep up GW!

Goblin Squad Member

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That's another good indication that the team is executing on the plan and that the assumptions we made about costs and timelines were reasonably accurate.

I bet you loved writing that :)

Liberty's Edge Goblin Squad Member

Ooh... my analytical brain just loves all the numbers in this one. Congratulations on the funding, and a big welcome to Zeke! Great stuff in the portfolio.

Also nice to see there are 14 of us Hellknights Most Wanted desperadoes. Let's have a shout-out from the rest of you so we can compare Desperado Do's and Don'ts.

Goblin Squad Member

Truckin'
Got my chips cashed in
Truckin'
Like the Doo Dah Man
Together
For the best in life:
Just keep Truckin' On and on-n-n!

Goblin Squad Member

*gives Deianira the Desperado High Five*

Liberty's Edge Goblin Squad Member

Dario wrote:
*gives Deianira the Desperado High Five*

Whoo hoo!

DO have a signature "look." You can't make the Most Wanted list if no one knows it's you freeing the slaves from the auction block.

Goblin Squad Member

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We're going to be opening up the fulfillment system to people who didn't back the Kickstarter so they can make pledges and choose rewards!

This is good news. I looked forward to this.

Please tell me you will accept Paypal, and i will be very happy.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Sorry—Mastercard, Visa, or Discover only.

Goblin Squad Member

Vic Wertz wrote:
Sorry—Mastercard, Visa, or Discover only.

Thanks for the quick answer.

Goblin Squad Member

Great info! Keep up the good work. It is great to hear that us "late bloomers" will get our chance just as promised.

Please consider including what month of EE people will be allowed in as you did with the kickstarter.


Being wrote:

Truckin'

Got my chips cashed in
Truckin'
Like the Doo Dah Man
Together
For the best in life:
Just keep Truckin' On and on-n-n!

One of my favorite things to play on guitar

CEO, Goblinworks

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Maybe a bit more on the Paypal thing. Paypal has a requirement that the goods paid for be shipped or the service delivered within a short time window from when the payment is processed. While I know there's lots of counter examples of people offering the same kind of things we are on multi-year timelines, we've got a particular sensitivity because of the volume of business Paizo does with PayPal. We just can't jeopardize that relationship even by proxy. So we're complying with the letter of the terms of PayPal service rather than what appears to be the more "accommodating" industry practice.

Goblin Squad Member

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Ryan Dancey wrote:
Maybe a bit more on the Paypal thing. Paypal has a requirement that the goods paid for be shipped or the service delivered within a short time window from when the payment is processed. While I know there's lots of counter examples of people offering the same kind of things we are on multi-year timelines, we've got a particular sensitivity because of the volume of business Paizo does with PayPal. We just can't jeopardize that relationship even by proxy. So we're complying with the letter of the terms of PayPal service rather than what appears to be the more "accommodating" industry practice.

And with Paypal having frozen accounts in the past for weeks at a time for violations of their terms, it's probably best not to use the service.


Dergard wrote:
Please tell me you will accept Paypal, and i will be very happy.

Can you get Visa debit cards thru your bank? There are also pre-paid Visa debit cards which you just buy and spend. Both those should be usable thru the normal Visa CC processing system. ...Although if you are boycotting Visa as a company, not just opposed to credit cards as such, that probably doesn't help.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Quandary wrote:
Both those should be usable thru the normal Visa CC processing system.

Yep—our system doesn't care if it's a credit card, a debit card, or a gift card—so long as it has a Visa (or MasterCard or Discover) logo, it should work.

Goblin Squad Member

Thanks for the update! It's always interesting to hear the behind-the-scenes stuff, and your transparency and communication is commendable.

I have a question about stretch goals. You said your goal was to bring in Sean Reynolds for the Emerald Spire Superdungeon (awesome!). You said you're $30,000 away, which means you're effectively at $1,120,000, correct?

There was also a stretch goal to add another mini at $1.1 million. Does that mean you'll be adding another mini to the mini set?

Thanks again!

Goblin Squad Member

Nice to see that everything is on budget (and on schedule).

Keep up the good work.


Woo! Can't wait to pledge!

Also, welcome to "Zeke"! The work on his site looks awesome, and I can't wait to see how PFO's graphics turn out with him (and everyone else) involved!

Goblin Squad Member

I am 100% astounded that you are releasing this type of information to the public.

that also reminds me i need to do the add on thing.

Goblin Squad Member

Wow! good to know things are on track! it really made me feel batter
(and I reallyyyy look forward seeing Jake's magic in the game!!!!)

Goblin Squad Member

A lot of hard work being done at GW HQ. Very good to see the transparency.

I notice Shroud of the Avatar is doing a monthly payment option above and beyond their original kickstarter (which they smashed by almost double ie +1m$ extra) for the higher tiers they have done eg upwards of 11,000$. Now I can see a reason for doing this for people who want a higher tier. In fact I'd love the alpha tier but could not stump up in one lump sum. That said, my initial feeling on the subject is that this is a WRONG move by Portalarium to open up this option this soon in the title's production. I think the nature of Kickstarter is that if you cannot afford a certain level (as a backer) then don't take on so much risk; particularly being caught up in the first rush of enthusiasm for a large project that is relatively long in development. Now anyone is free to act as they decide, but I think the weight of the project shifting too much onto the shoulder's of people's good will; particularly as it could be conceived as a sub for the game before it's already out!

As above I can see the utlity of offering the option (even for myself), but it does not sit well with me and I think that's something to keep sight of for building respectful relationship with customers: The temtptation to "milk" freely offered money is no doubt high, but it comes with a cost of uneasiness, is possibly one way to put it into words. Anyway thought I'd flag that up for consideration. I realise the highest risk in this project is likely going to be the development stage and all extra cash raised is significant to reducing that, but nonetheless, responsibility to customers is still a valuable thing, in my book. Ryan even said this in the kickstarter to paraphrase: Don't get yourself out of pocket.

I'm very happy personally more people can have the option to join the Early Enrollment process, as the project picks up momentum and there are spaces still available it all helps it come together.

Goblin Squad Member

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The runaway favorite is Twice-Marked of Pharasma, which has been selected 976 times!

That's a surprise as nothing was said about what it is... right?

Goblin Squad Member

CaptnB wrote:
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The runaway favorite is Twice-Marked of Pharasma, which has been selected 976 times!
That's a surprise as nothing was said about what it is... right?

Nothing's really been said about that one, or the regional trait pack.

Liberty's Edge Goblin Squad Member

Dario wrote:
CaptnB wrote:
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The runaway favorite is Twice-Marked of Pharasma, which has been selected 976 times!
That's a surprise as nothing was said about what it is... right?
Nothing's really been said about that one, or the regional trait pack.

Can't really speak to the Twice Marked other than it states those so marked would have access to content not otherwise available (so maybe a trip to the Boneyard in "ghost form"?)

I am expecting regional trait packs to function much like the ones in the Golarion setting, though modified for MMO play. Access to special traits and possibly some other game aspects (resistance to certain energies, such as those taking the regional trait packs for any of the far north areas gaining a minor resistance to cold). Such traits are found in various books (Inner Sea Guide, Gazetteer) and in many of the published Adventure Paths (AP's), plus in Paizo's blogs. What remains to be seen is how they will be modified to fit an MMO experience, as it is quite different than PnP games. I hope this will be revealed soon :)

Goblin Squad Member

I've a couple of thoughts on Goblinworks next round of crowdfunding:

For international customers the presence of physical rewards in a package can actually be a disincentive to contribute. Issues associated with shipping costs and risk that the package won't actually ever arrive. Goblinworks might consider solely digital alternative packages where elements such as miniatures are included. Believe doing so would be favourable to Goblinworks. Looking at Shroud of the Avatar kickstarter, almost as many people selected digital only options as ones with physical rewards. Also reduces shipping and logistics and overheads costs (flagged by Chris Roberts on Star Citizen as a big issue with physical kickstarter rewards).

Also would be nice to have more information on what the various add-ons do or offer. I'm tempted to purchase the regional trait pack ... but I have no idea what it does or what the options mentioned such as Mwangi Expanse mean and whether they align with my character concepts. The same applies to additional alliance pack. It would be nice to have a list of available alliances - if I saw one that aligned with my character concept I'd certainly pay for it.

Liberty's Edge Goblin Squad Member

For the Regional Trait Pack, I've used the Pathfinder Wiki geography page to look up the various regions.

Goblin Squad Member

Deianira wrote:
For the Regional Trait Pack, I've used the Pathfinder Wiki geography page to look up the various regions.

Thanks for the link. Nice website.

I do think it would be in Goblinworks best interest to provide a bit more information and make it easier for potential customers. I appreciate Goblinworks/Paizo have dedicated fans who know what the various reference mean, but would expect that to attract new customers, broaden the game's appeal, etc., they ought to provide a bit more information. Provides confidence in the product being offered and reduces risk that it will be perceived as a niche product for an already knowledgeable clique.

Goblin Squad Member

Kelpie wrote:
Also would be nice to have more information on what the various add-ons do or offer. I'm tempted to purchase the regional trait pack ... but I have no idea what it does or what the options

It does not surprise me that the Twice-Marked of Pharasma is popular: I think it sounds useful eg rezzing somewhere useful or even going to some spirit realm?!

Whereas the regional and other packs could be quite limited utility. Again the extra training time seems very valid and a safe bet.

Goblin Squad Member

i assume the marks of pharasma will be on our eyelids?

Goblin Squad Member

I really appreciate the transparency and the bravery it takes to do so.

Goblin Squad Member

Quandary wrote:
Dergard wrote:
Please tell me you will accept Paypal, and i will be very happy.
Can you get Visa debit cards thru your bank? There are also pre-paid Visa debit cards which you just buy and spend. Both those should be usable thru the normal Visa CC processing system. ...Although if you are boycotting Visa as a company, not just opposed to credit cards as such, that probably doesn't help.

Thanks Quandary.

I have come to terms with getting a credit card (grudgingly). And yes, i am just opposed to credit cards per se. ;)

To make a long story short: germans employ plastic money alien to a typical US credit card. If you are REALLY curious about this:

http://www.girocard.eu/index_en.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girocard

Nonetheless, i appreciate your help.

Scarab Sages Goblin Squad Member

Goblinworks wrote:
A Region Trait Pack will provide the character with an achievement stating the country they hail from, a title, and a small mechanical effect, all based on the country of origin selected when the pack is used.

I'm not sure how closely the "small mechanical effects" in PFO will match those in the tabletop game, but a filter-able list of tabletop traits can be found here. It doesn't work very well on my Android phone, but I think it will let you filter by region name.

Goblinworks Founder

I just happened to though of this.

To those who didn't make the payment or failed. You think of doing a payment plan and offering them a second chance if they still want to do their donation.

I guess you would have some access to who didn't make the payment (I think with this). This would be a second chance for them to still contribute and get their kickstarter rewards.

Just a thought, I saw another kickstarter do it this way.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

We did notify everyone (from both Kickstarters) who had pledged and had payments fail that they could retry with paizo processing their card instead of Amazon.

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