Couldn't a bard counter her dance (a visual effect, IIRC) with the Distract bardic performance ability?
(At the very least, any bard player worth his RP salt will use Summon Instrument and Disguise Self for castanets and a flamenco outfit, then insist on a dance battle with her).
I don't see why not.
Also, LOL. Well played.
I can't claim credit for the idea. Back in the Usenet days, I read about one DM's scenario: "Disco Lich." Apparently, the player with a bard responded to this appropriately.
I haven't seen Disco Lich but I have seen MC Lich versus PalaJockey Rap-Off.
Oy. It's fun to pull things like that sometimes. In my group, the GM once went for a grand entrance/reveal.
GM: "The doors burst open, and there are three ghouls standing there threatening you."
ME (as bard): "I cast open/close on the doors."
Nothing quite as fun as ruining a dramatic entrance.
Not up with the running on this, and don't have the books in front of me.
However - I think it'd probably come down to (& you'd need to check the
lady's abilities vs. the rules) whether it was spell-like, supernatural
or something else.
Spell-like = yes, I'd agree easily. Supernatural would be an 'I'm not sure,
can you tell me what the rules say?'
But yes, it would be a cool counter...if it works... If not - the bard could
be in for a world of pain...
Quote: Captivating Dance (Su) When a baobhan sith dances, all living creatures within 30 feet that view the rhythmic swaying and movements of her body must succeed on a DC 19 Will save or become utterly enthralled and captivated. Creatures that are sexually attracted to females who view this dance suffer a –2 penalty on their saving throws. A creature that makes its save cannot be affected again by the same baobhan sith’s captivating dance for one day. A captivated creature is dazed (it cannot attack, but can defend normally). This continues for as long as the baobhan sith dances. A baobhan sith can move and act normally (including using her spell-like abilities) while maintaining her dance. The save DC is Charisma-based. Baobhan sith's dance is (Su), and is contingent on her being observed.
Distraction from the PFSRD:
Quote: Distraction (Su): At 1st level, a bard can use his performance to counter magic effects that depend on sight. Each round of the Distraction, he makes a Perform (act, comedy, dance, or oratory) skill check. Any creature within 30 feet of the bard (including the bard himself) that is affected by an illusion (pattern) or illusion (figment) magical attack may use the bard’s Perform check result in place of its saving throw if, after the saving throw is rolled, the Perform check result proves to be higher. If a creature within range of the Distraction is already under the effect of a non-instantaneous illusion (pattern) or illusion (figment) magical attack, it gains another saving throw against the effect each round it sees the Distraction, but it must use the bard’s Perform check result for the save. Distraction does not work on effects that don’t allow saves. Distraction relies on visual components. So it's up in the air. On the one hand, the beginning part just says "magic effects that depend on sight". The later part though specifically calls out illusions, thus narrowing the field significantly. I'd make it a GM call. I personally would allow it, but I could understand why someone would say no.
If I were GM, I'd allow it, too. Halfway because of the rules, and halfway because I like to encourage cool and creative use of character abilities. If a monster makes a dance-based attack, it makes sense that a bard (who has his own magical dance) might be able to counter it.
I don't know if I would resolve it under the Distraction rules or as some sort of skill vs. skill dance-off. If a bard wants to out-lambada one of the fae, who am I to stop him from trying?
I had an epic dance-off with that Baobhan Sidhe in the tower. We tried a variety of styles and techniques, but she was unable to overcome my natural bardic panache. She was quite incensed that my dancing skills proved superior to her own, however, and we wound up having to fight a quickling and another evil fey up there before the day was done.
Funny thing is in that encounter the Pale Lady wanted my bard to preform for her. Since I was level 7 and put tons of points into perform it was now 15. So what happens is I get like a 30+ on my perform check but she begins her dance, although I'm also doing my own fascinate as well to affect her and her minion. She resists and her own fascinate affects half the party but the DM says my performance was so much higher then her's that I was not affected...so I won a dance off with a flute. XD
See - by RAW, I'd have to say that this wouldn't work...as Distraction
specifically calls out illusions...which captivating dance isn't. (It's a
charm effect of sorts.) If you allow Distraction to work - you'd equally
have to allow Countersong - even though it calls out audible effects...
However - what I 'might' do, is allow a Bard clever enough to suggest this
a chance at countering her abilities by combining both Countersong &
Distraction...which, of course, would give them a chance - but with a
penalty, as neither ability is designed to cope with what The Lady is
throwing at them...maybe a +5 to the DC? Plus, I'd probably only give
other party members a +2 to their saves if the Bard makes the check.
After all - it's a bonus freely given by the DM to reward clever play,
rather than an ability which the Bard is normally endowed with & which is
therefore theirs by right...
<blockquote>n ability which the Bard is normally endowed with</blockquote>
When I play a bard, he is always well-endowed.
With musical talent.
pennywit wrote: <blockquote>n ability which the Bard is normally endowed with</blockquote>
When I play a bard, he is always well-endowed.
With musical talent.
Ba doom poom tshh!
:)
Philip Knowsley wrote: pennywit wrote: <blockquote>n ability which the Bard is normally endowed with</blockquote>
When I play a bard, he is always well-endowed.
With musical talent.
Ba doom poom tshh!
:) Let me help you with that.
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