Jordan Barlam |
What I would really like in a bestiary 5 is an exploration of thematic monster groups in a similar manner to outsiders.
Right now, every outside type seems to have a CR 2 improved familiar, a CR 20 "boss monster", and several intermediate monsters. While this allows demons or devils or aeons to appear at any general level of play, however, it is pretty poor at helping you create a campaign centered around a type of creature. As your party grows from low to mid-levels, for example, it is hard to justify your players no longer running into rot-fiends and start running into rage-fiends (examples) as there may be no innate relationship between them.
Compare that, say, with the relationship between skums, faceless stalkers, aboleths, and shoggoths. If you made a CR 11-13 emissary of shoggoths and a low-level familiar aberation used by the aboleths as organic power sources, we would have a similar distribution and there would be the makings of a campaign within the distribution. The mindflayers of thoon were my favorite part of the MM V for the way they did that.
I'm not saying that there should be TOO many of these or that all of them should stretch from CR 2 to 20 but that unrealated creatures can form a thematic progression (such as the otherworldly allies or masters of a creature or the constructs first created by a certain species).
christos gurd |
Search tome of slenderotica on the boards. It will give you everything needed for a slenderman game. Including a statblock for the big nasty itself.
if any are interested in this link
Threeshades |
I would like the Cheshire Cat to have the enlarge and minimize spells so it can alter its size.
I think to make it true to the book it should have a fly speed with perfect maneuverability, and a teleport effect that allows it to partially disappear to varying degrees or actually teleport to a dfferent place as per greater teleport as a free or immediate action.
Basically it would be near impossible to attack, but offensively it wouldn't have anything going for it either. Maybe some sound-based and language dependent confusion effect.
Speaking of Wonderland critters, I'm still waiting on raths, toves and borogoves.
Wannabe Demon Lord |
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Quote:More critters based on modern folklore and children's tales pleaseYes like the Bloody Bones and Tailypo (which could be a Servian Bauk species or legendary creature)
Agloolik- This could be a Agathion of the seal-kind.
Amarok- This creatures is cool, but too much like Winter Wolf/Akluth/Fenris to me.
Kokogiak- I hope this AP monster is in the next bestiary.
Ugjuknarpak- Awesome Monster for which I wished a lot in the past, but the more I think about it the more I compare it with the Aztec Ahuizotl.
Paiyuk- Thanks for this creature, I never heard of it and I kinda like deer monsters, I only got the Sianach this far which sound kinda like the brother of this creature.
Gahonga- Would be cool for the spawn of the Asag Rock Demon.
Gaasyendietha- Wished for this A LOT, but nobody seemed to care for this awesome dragon, i'm glad you like it too! But when it appears I hope its a rock-like dragon that can turn into a living meteor and not the boring lake dragon it is suppose to be cuz we already have the Water Orm, I can't find the connection between meteor and water as well, in my eyes meteors are rocks.
Lenapizka- Aquatic blue tigers are cool in my book, can also cut the Blue Tiger from my wishlist, this is better.
Wishpooshi- I'd rather see the Welch Afanc as beaver monster.
Indacinga- Nature destroying, sounds like a plan, + i'm tired of landscape giants, these mytho giants would be good replacement, like Antaeus, Jack-in-Irons, Yeito and this Indacinga for example, there are more of course like cacus and stuff.
A-Mi-Kuk - I'm confused about your description, but on one site it looked like a ice-based bulette which I actually like.
I'm also missing the giant evil skunk Aniwye on your native american list.
Agloolik- Sounds good
Amarok- I know, but I was kind of disappointed that the Winter Wolf didn't get a full profile and was just a varient, that was one of the reasons I suggested it.Kokogiak- I agree
Ugjuknarpak- True. Maybe they could be evolutionary cousins? We do have 25 true dragons, after all.
Paiyuk- Glad to be of assistance
Gahonga- Good idea
Gaasyendietha- I actually first heard about it on your list. I've used those lists you always write as a great starter point for monster research!
Lenapizka- I agree
Wishpooshi- You're probably right, I love the Afanc
Indacinga- I certainly agree, enough with the landscape giants. Not necessary when there are so many to choose from in mythology.
Aniwye was on my last list. I love it too.
And I present to you the A-Mi- Kuk: http://www.deviantart.com/art/A-Mi-Kuk-153528149
Dragon78 |
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The borrowers, the littles, or the Secret World of Ariety. I like the idea of them being humanoid since we do not have humanoid creatures of tiny or smaller size that are not fey, outsiders, etc..
I would like a creatures like the mythical version of the tarasque but we would have too give it a different name.
Gancanagh |
Agloolik- Sounds good
Amarok- I know, but I was kind of disappointed that the Winter Wolf didn't get a full profile and was just a varient, that was one of the reasons I suggested it.
Kokogiak- I agree
Ugjuknarpak- True. Maybe they could be evolutionary cousins? We do have 25 true dragons, after all.
Paiyuk- Glad to be of assistance
Gahonga- Good idea
Gaasyendietha- I actually first heard about it on your list. I've used those lists you always write as a great starter point for monster research!
Lenapizka- I agree
Wishpooshi- You're probably right, I love the Afanc
Indacinga- I certainly agree, enough with the landscape giants. Not necessary when there are so many to choose from in mythology.
Aniwye was on my last list. I love it too.
And I present to you the A-Mi- Kuk: http://www.deviantart.com/art/A-Mi-Kuk-153528149
Well nice to see somebody here that actually enjoys/takes creatures from my lists for once! Thanks!
Of Courses you give me some creatures I didn't knew about (such as Paiyuk and Lenapizka) in return, so that's awesome!Hope to see you post more on here, keep on posting your monster lists!
Of course there are 10.000 rainbow dragons so 2 beaver monsters, 2 monsters that are water based and catch prey with their tail, and 3 big-wolf based monsters should be ok too of course...
Some monsters in mythology/Folklore/Cryptid land (like the Gaasyendietha) are pretty boring on their own (in looks or story) in Gaasyendietha's case looking like a normal river dragon (water orm) while it's second name is awesome as Meteor Dragon, in such cases I make up a entirely new creature from the fluff I was given on a website and mostly on wikipedia, so not all the creatures I post are 100% like their real-world mythology counterparts, but some are just to uninspired on their own otherwise.
Agloolik would be cool as Agathion, but as i'm not really into good and kind creatures (I find them pretty useless unless they are neutral)I made up a new version that catches fish and food for the poor people/humanoids of it's realm so that eventually they come to rely on the Agloolik entirely and so they become fat and lazy in the progress, the villages around the Agloolik territorium turn into easy livestock for the evil-natured Selkie sub-species.
Of course the Agloolik takes it's victims by suprise so they disappear without trace, and the Agloolik often blames other monsters and humanoids for the attack, mostly strategic so the angry mob kills carnivorous enemies of the Agloolik.
Agloolik are very smart and intelligent and every problem can be solved by them, so catching them is very difficult. They can mask their evil nature like experts and even creatures that can detect evil don't notice it as they have a good and gentle (fake of course) aura.
They are Leopard Seal versions of the Selkie, but their humanoid form isn't human at all, but they are only feral/scary looking in their leopardseal form.
CR: 9
Size: Large
Environment: Cold seas and lakes.
Gancanagh |
About the real-world Tarasque, its pretty much one of the few creatures from D&D that I like more than it's mythology version.
I can't stand the turtle shell on it. There are many strange combination of animals in the mythology world, but for me the most silly one is the Turtle/Lion/Scorpion combination, the turtle part does it for me...
Ammit which is part crocodile/lion/hippopotamus is also weird, but i've seen some cool pictures of it so cool versions are possible. Didn't see cool Tarasque pictures yet, the only picture I like is the one D&D used.
JiCi |
About the real-world Tarasque, its pretty much one of the few creatures from D&D that I like more than it's mythology version.
I can't stand the turtle shell on it. There are many strange combination of animals in the mythology world, but for me the most silly one is the Turtle/Lion/Scorpion combination, the turtle part does it for me...
Ammit which is part crocodile/lion/hippopotamus is also weird, but i've seen some cool pictures of it so cool versions are possible. Didn't see cool Tarasque pictures yet, the only picture I like is the one D&D used.
Pretty sure any of the Bestiaries' artists could make it awesome ^_^
The thing is that the original Tarasque could be a possible addition, they would just need a better name to avoid confusion with the iconic monster.
Umbriere Moonwhisper |
what bestiary 5 could use
a cute medium PC race or few that is compatible with the loli goth look without an excessive resource tax and human enough in appearance to not require a disguise check. the hypothetical race could be a fey, outsider or humanoid without much issue, though i would give bonus points if it were a fey, because we don't have enough fey PC Races.
a medium PC race with a bonus to intellect and charisma with a penalty to strength. makes a good baseline for a half-nymph
a medium PC race with a bonus to strength and dexterity with a penalty to charisma. i know it will likely be the primary martial race, but casters already have some custom tailored races for themselves
a small sized PC race with a strength bonus and a charisma penalty. most of the core small races have a charisma bonus and a strength penalty, favoring sorcerers, but i want to see a small race with a strength bonus and charisma penalty for the sake of subversion for subversion's sake
a small or medium sized PC race with a 40 foot base land speed and an easy means to gain pounce
a positive energy planetouched and a negative energy planetouched, a law and chaos planetouched as well. how about a 1st world planetouched too?
Soluzar |
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One suggestion I would make is to look to Mesoamerican or Native American myth. One huge complaint about the new lycanthrope race is what they called them: Skinwalkers. This name is literally out of Native American myth, of a create that would kill someone then wear their skin. This example has lead to a slight disappointment in Paizo in relation to this. There was a real opportunity that was utterly wasted.
Threeshades |
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One suggestion I would make is to look to Mesoamerican or Native American myth. One huge complaint about the new lycanthrope race is what they called them: Skinwalkers. This name is literally out of Native American myth, of a create that would kill someone then wear their skin. This example has lead to a slight disappointment in Paizo in relation to this. There was a real opportunity that was utterly wasted.
They could still make this creature and name it in its original language.
Dragon78 |
More true dragons like gem(diamond, ruby, emerald, sapphire, and pearl), or outer planes(holy/good, law, chaos, dark/evil, and balance/neutral).
More terrain/elemental themed giants(mountain, fog, mist, savanna, etc.), giants from myth, giants from other planets(castrovel, akiton, etc.), and gigas from the maelstrom, axis, etc.
Gancanagh |
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I actually want creatures (not dragons or drakes or giant) based on less-known gemstones! (so not the boring old Ruby, Malachite, Emerald, Sapphire, Aquamarine, Quartz Crystal, Amethyst, Onyx, Citrine Quartz, Rozen Quartz and most annoying Diamond.)
But on gems like
- Morganite and Heliodore (Same group as emerald but much more beautiful)
- Axinite (very sharp gemstone)
- Rhodochrosite (so much more beautiful than diamond)
- Sugilite (beautiful purple)
- Dioptase (most beautiful colour you've ever seen)
- Magnetite (magnetic properties)
- Alexandrite (can change colour)
- Staurolite (star shaped gems)
- Celestite (the gemstone of the angels, heavenly blue)
- Tigereye or Hawkeye Quartz (with the strange effects)
- Cinnabar (with quicksilver in it)
- Cordierite or Water Sapphire (SO much more special and beautiful than plain boring Sapphires)
- Spectrolite/Labradorite (O how can people like rubies more than this special gem?)
- Demantoid Garnet (So much better than diamond.)
- Dumortierite (one of my personal favorites for the beautiful blue)
- Neptunite (the stone of the black ocean depts)
- Hematite (the stone with powers over blood)
- Opal (Fire, Jester, Hyalite and Hydrofane) the most special of Opals only!
- Smokey Quartz (Powers over smoke and can entrap or Summon Enenra Smoke Yokai)
- Indigo Tourmaline (The only tourmaline that matters, the others are overused)
- Vesuvianite (The stone of vulcans)
- Wulfenite (The beauty will kill you, the most beautiful yellow gemstone out there)
- Ulexite (which enlarges texts when put on it, so you can read very very tiny words)
Yes I collected gemstones when I was young, and all these gemstones and many more (Spare for the very very very rare Neptunite) were in my collection.
As little kid I already liked everything that wasn't overused, I was born that way.
JiCi |
Hmmm... should the angels, archons, agathions and azatas be expanded?
For agathions, we currently have:
- bird of prey
- cetacean
- dragon
- hunting feline
- house cat (I really can't tell what creature the Silvanshee is supposed to be representing)
- fox
How about?
- wolf
- bear
- turtle
- ape
- horse
- rat/rodent
- elephant
- fish
For angels or archons, how about the 7 Holy Virtues?
- Chastity
- Temperance
- Charity
- Diligence
- Patience
- Kindness
- Humility
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More robots!
Enough to make a full lineup of 7-10 mecha themed bots.
And one of those robots, please make it Humanoid shaped and fight with one blade and shoulder rockets (or whatever, so long as it has a cool ninja-blade or short sword sized robot sword that extends and sheathes automatically).
More Kaiju, (not to be confused with the above mecha, though playing out Pacific Rim with pathfinder rules sounds pretty cool).
More neutral or good aligned outsiders added to existing sets, like Aeons, Arcons, Devas and so on.
More templates! (Seriously, every time I think i´ve seen the last of cool undead ideas, you make a new all-undead template!)
More aberrations (From my own idea bank: A playable Three armed and three legged race of blue aberrationfolk, the race practices cosmetic body modification and the evil necessity of amputating the third leg of every infant (thus bringing them down to two legs), their body is malleable (think octopus stuck inside a humaoid shaped skin))
Mechagamera |
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Hmmm... should the angels, archons, agathions and azatas be expanded?
For agathions, we currently have:
- bird of prey
- cetacean
- dragon
- hunting feline
- house cat (I really can't tell what creature the Silvanshee is supposed to be representing)
- foxHow about?
- wolf
- bear
- turtle
- ape
- horse
- rat/rodent
- elephant
- fishFor angels or archons, how about the 7 Holy Virtues?
- Chastity
- Temperance
- Charity
- Diligence
- Patience
- Kindness
- Humility
+1. Or maybe they could update the sin dragons with virtue dragons. Shame the sin dragons didn't get more love; I laughed when I read the lust dragon's breath weapon disintegrated clothing; the chastity dragon's breath weapon could paralyze you with thick layers of extra strong clothing.
I also wouldn't mind a tiger or bull based archon/agathon/azata.
AlgaeNymph |
Also, a typically good, black-skinned race. Mortal or celestial, either way.
We've got plenty of typically neutral and evil ones, so why not have a good one for once?
Or more than once as the case may be:
"Legion archons stand 6-1/2 feet in height and weigh 200 pounds. Beneath their helmets and armor, they have pale or nearly jet-black hairless skin."
Mikaze |
Like from the children's book. Tiny people who live in the walls of big folk, avoid being seen and live by "borrowing" stuff from the big folk.
Oh thank God, Borrowers. Yes, that could make for some neat adventures if they even come with PC rules.
...
Okay, okay, Burrowers would be cool too, but hot damn they are horrifying in their feeding habits. D:
Mikaze |
Mikaze wrote:Also, a typically good, black-skinned race. Mortal or celestial, either way.
We've got plenty of typically neutral and evil ones, so why not have a good one for once?
Or more than once as the case may be:
"Legion archons stand 6-1/2 feet in height and weigh 200 pounds. Beneath their helmets and armor, they have pale or nearly jet-black hairless skin."
I don't have my books nearby at the moment, but didn't the Legion Archon artwork default to pale?
I want to say Spyglass Archons are black-skinned. Their wings are, at least.
MMCJawa |
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Miley Cyrus would make a heck of a monster;)
Giant robots are fantasy because they defy the laws of physics. While on the other hand dragons could exist on some planet out in the universe, you never know.
A new race of orcs that are good and have diferent racial mods.
More species of goblinoids.
Would Miley Cyrus be an abberation?
Also: Yes we need some more Orcs...I am kind of surprised we haven't had more variants. I'd like to see some Orcs that more closely align with the Uruk Hai and other "advanced" breeds.
More Goblinoids would be good as well. I'd like to see a more intelligent magic-using variant. The type that would be most likely to take levels in wizard and form the evil mastermind of goblinoid armies. That is a niche currently left open. Extra points if it borrows inspiration from the brainy gremlin of Gremlin 2.
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AlgaeNymph |
AlgaeNymph wrote:I don't have my books nearby at the moment, but didn't the Legion Archon artwork default to pale?*checks*
Huh, pale gray.
I read there was a similar problem with Serpent's Skull where all the Mwangi folks were lightened up. Yes, I believe we need to encourage Paizo to crack the whip on artists.