Disarm curiosity


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So, when you disarm someone, you get the ability to pick up. However, to pick up a weapon, you get an Attack of Opportunity. If you wanted to use said AoO, could you use it to instead attempt to pick up your weapon as well?

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I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. Are you saying that if I've already disarmed you, and you spend a move action to pick up your fallen weapon (provoking an AoO from me), then you're asking if I can use my AoO to pick up the fallen weapon before you do?

If that's the question, then no. An AoO is just a normal attack, or something which can replace any melee attack you make (such as a disarm, sunder or trip combat maneuver).


I too am having trouble understanding the question so I'll try to answer it in two ways.

If person A disarmed person B and the weapon is on the ground.

Person B could attempt to pick it up but it would provoke an AoO.

Person A could attempt to pick it up on their next turn if person B did not pick it up on their turn and person A would not receive an AoO from person B unless person B had Improved Unarmed strike or another melee weapon in his hand.

Edit: Also you can not use an AoO to do anything other then an attack action. So person A could not use his AoO to pick up the weapon when person B goes to pick it up.


I think Dathus is asking if you can use a disarm combat maneuver as an AoO to pick up a weapon that someone else is trying to reach for.

His logic seems (incorrectly to me) that since an unarmed combatant who successfully disarms an opponent may automatically pick up that weapon (presumably without an additional AoO, save from the one for the disarm combat maneuver) he should be able to use the same maneuver to pick up the weapon that his opponent is reaching for before they can pick it up themselves.

However, as I understand it you cannot use a disarm maneuver on an unattended object to pick it up. Furthermore your disarm maneuver in this case (being an AoO) occurs just before the triggering action (the opponent reaching for the weapon), and as such is being used against a still unarmed opponent. Therefore there is nothing to disarm your opponent of and nothing to "automatically pick up" as per the disarm rules.

That said, I see no reason a similar mechanic could not be used, but this would fall firmly under house rules.


"So, when you disarm someone, you get the ability to pick up."

is referencing the Disarm rules:

"If you successfully disarm your opponent without using a weapon, you may automatically pick up the item dropped."

"However, to pick up a weapon, you get an Attack of Opportunity"

is saying that after disarming, I can pickup the weapon, but it provokes an AoO, and:

"If you wanted to use said AoO, could you use it to instead attempt to pick up your weapon as well?"

is asking if you may instead pickup the weapon that was just disarmed from you rather than attack.

But, "Automatically" means "No attack of opportunity." And even if it did, you would not be able to use your ATTACK of opportunity for something that is not an ATTACK.


You guys answered my question for the AoO being purely attack actions, only.

The scenario was thus:

Rogue with TWF and Fighter are in combat. Rogue makes and succeeds on a disarm attempt on the Fighter's short sword as his standard action. Using a Free Action, Rogue drops one of his rapiers to pick up the dropped short sword as a move action.

I was thinking, since the Rogue was dropping a weapon to pick up the short sword, the AoO could be a "who gets to the dropped weapon first" sort of thing. I was 90% sure that the AoO couldn't be changed to a replacement move action to regain the fallen sword, and I just wanted to double check with you guys. Thanks, and I apologize for the lack of clarity.

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