Hi, I am a 10th level wizard.
I have a Lesser(only 3rd level spells or lower)Rod of Metamagic Freezing spell.
I also have the Rime Metamagic feat.
Can I Memorize a Rime Magic Missle?
The Freezing metamagic feat would make it have the Cold descriptor upon casting it, but im not certain if im allowed to memorize magic missle (a force spell descriptor) with Rime Metamagic, in the first place due to the fact that Magic missle doesnt have the cold descriptor originally.
I can't seem to find Rod of Metamagic Freezing anywhere. I would say that you can't memorize Rime Magic Missle because it does not have the cold descriptor.
Freezing Spell is a 3rd party feat that predates the Rime Spell feat. Since they are similar in their effect, I would consider only allowing one of them.
@Magic Missile. It doesn't work. You cannot use Freezing Spell with it, since it doesn't grant a saving throw.
In other circumstances, freezing spell should allow Rime Spell, since it give the spell the cold-descriptor.
Great catch Haraldklak!
Totally forgot about the Save, but yes say 3rd level spell fireball, or even acid arrow from 2nd level spell.
Also yes Freezing is a 3rd party meta-magic feat that my GM has allowed, although any 3rd party material is limited, and with good reason i might add, my elven wizard is a cold based caster, although I have yet to show it... >_>. Seriously that was my intent when I first made the caster, and instead I've done anything but cast cold spells. Pathfinder really seriously has next to no cold descriptor spells. :(
the three.
Anyone else that can chime in as far as to whether or not I can memorize and a non cold spell with rime before adding the cold descriptor it after the fact?
Great catch Haraldklak!
Totally forgot about the Save, but yes say 3rd level spell fireball, or even acid arrow from 2nd level spell.Also yes Freezing is a 3rd party meta-magic feat that my GM has allowed, although any 3rd party material is limited, and with good reason i might add, my elven wizard is a cold based caster, although I have yet to show it... >_>. Seriously that was my intent when I first made the caster, and instead I've done anything but cast cold spells. Pathfinder really seriously has next to no cold descriptor spells. :(
the three.Anyone else that can chime in as far as to whether or not I can memorize and a non cold spell with rime before adding the cold descriptor it after the fact?
Most of my wizard builds on these boards use the same style. Taking the Admixture Evocation subschool allows you to change your spell's descriptors spontaneously and apply a metamagic rod to them 100% legally, and with no 3rd party feats involved.
Depending on the DMs interpretation, one could prepare any spell with any metamagic feat, but you would be 'wasting' a higher level spell slot because the spell itself would be unaffected by the metamagic. The book even mentions this when describing something along the lines of trying out a maximized divine favor. Based on that precedent, it would be okay to prepare fireball with rime on it, just knowing that if you don't use versatile evocation, it won't do anything different, but you have to clear it with the DM first of course.
master_marshmallow
Thats exactly as I had initially understood it to stand. Unless I added the proper descriptor to the spell, the spell would be utterly useless, hence the reasoning. Thanks nonetheless for the 2 cents master!
master_marshmallow
Thats exactly as I had initially understood it to stand. Unless I added the proper descriptor to the spell, the spell would be utterly useless, hence the reasoning. Thanks nonetheless for the 2 cents master!
And the only way I've found to change the descriptor (as a wizard at least) is by using versatile evocation.
There is a sorcerer bloodline that people recommend a dip into (elemental I believe) that lets you pick one type of energy that you can switch things to, this would also work because the focus is to switch to [cold] at all times, and it lets you control what school you pick for wizarding, but you are one level behind in spellcasting, so it's like playing a sorcerer. However, one could go with a Sin magic school and get a crapton of bonus spells, and you wouldn't lose scroll access thanks to your sorcerer dip.
Personally I prefer option A, as I'm not a fan of multiclassing, but it does work.