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To my knowledge, simply put, if the scroll contains a spell that is on the Ranger spell list (regardless of CL) there is no check required to use it. If it is not on the Ranger spell list then it would require a UMD check at 20 + CL of the spell. Barkskin is a 2nd level Ranger spell.
Edit: Also you need to have high enough ability score to cast it. So for a 2nd level Ranger spell you would need a Wisdom of 12 to use it without a UMD check.
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To my knowledge, simply put, if the scroll contains a spell that is on the Ranger spell list (regardless of CL) there is no check required to use it.
As per Core Rules (which were in fact quoted in the original post), having a CL lower than the CL of the scroll forces a CL check to activate it.
But in this particular example, he has a sufficiently high CL to not need a check.
Similarly, 3rd-level sorcerers can activate scrolls of 2nd-level spells, since the wizards craft them at CL3. (Same goes for oracles and activating cleric scrolls.)
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Well, really the question is one of activation.
To have any chance of activating a scroll spell, the scroll user must meet the following requirements.
The spell must be of the correct type (arcane or divine). Arcane spellcasters (wizards, sorcerers, and bards) can only use scrolls containing arcane spells, and divine spellcasters (clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers) can only use scrolls containing divine spells. (The type of scroll a character creates is also determined by his class.)
Waived per the rules of PFS, all scrolls count as both as applicable. Move on to the next item.
The user must have the spell on her class list.
Is it on the Ranger spell list? Yes, it is. Move on to the next item.
The user must have the requisite ability score.
Is your Ranger's Wisdom at least a 12? If yes, move on to the next item. If not, you cannot activate the scroll (barring Use Magic Device).
If the user meets all the requirements noted above, and her caster level is at least equal to the spell's caster level, she can automatically activate the spell without a check. If she meets all three requirements but her own caster level is lower than the scroll spell's caster level, then she has to make a caster level check (DC = scroll's caster level + 1) to cast the spell successfully.
Is your caster level equal to the caster level of the scroll? Well, we know from PFS rules that the scroll is at minimum caster level, which is 3. Your 6th level ranger, as we already know, is a 3rd-level caster, so you meet that requirement.
The only question is your Ranger's Wisdom score.
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I played a ranger in Living Greyhawk and made use of the druid spell list for scrolls of spells that he couldn't cast himself regularly. It's not uncommon for the ranger spell level to be higher than the druid spell level for the same spell, along with the slower spell progression for rangers. I called it raiding the druid list. Works in PFS too. Likewise for paladins and the cleric list.
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Even if someone wanted to be silly and say you needed to make a CL check, the DC would be 4 (1+CL of scroll) and your minimum check result is also 4, so you couldn't fail.
If she meets all three requirements but her own caster level is lower than the scroll spell’s caster level, then she has to make a caster level check (DC = scroll’s caster level + 1) to cast the spell successfully. If she fails, she must make a DC 5 Wisdom check to avoid a mishap (see Scroll Mishaps). A natural roll of 1 always fails, whatever the modifiers.
Emphasis mine. You do need to make the roll if you don't have a high enough CL, as you will fail 1 time in 20 regardless.
In the OP's case, there's no problem, but I just wanted to clarify the rule.
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nope, natural 1's only fail on attack rolls and saving throws.It's still a roll. ANY roll check fails on a 1.A natural 1 on the DC 5 wisdom check.
Not a natural 1 on the CL check.
Oh, well, I stand corrected. I thought it was anytime you had to roll for a check. Thanks for the rules clarification.
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To clarify further, natural 1s and 20s only auto-fail or auto-succeed on attack rolls and saving throws.
Which leads to a slightly odd line in the UMD skill:
Try Again: Yes, but if you ever roll a natural 1 while attempting to activate an item and you fail, then you can't try to activate that item again for 24 hours.
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Whenever a 1 has a special effect, they go out of their way to lay out what it does, because, except for those attack/saving throws, 1s aren't special.
I didn't say that it didn't make sense, just that it was slightly odd.
Of course, for those who don't know that skill rolls do not auto-fail, that line would be a head-scratcher.
Use a Scroll: Normally, to cast a spell from a scroll, you must have the scroll's spell on your class spell list. Use Magic Device allows you to use a scroll as if you had a particular spell on your class spell list. The DC is equal to 20 + the caster level of the spell you are trying to cast from the scroll. In addition, casting a spell from a scroll requires a minimum score (10 + spell level) in the appropriate ability. If you don't have a sufficient score in that ability, you must emulate the ability score with a separate Use Magic Device check.
Does this bypass the need for you to be the same caster type (divine/arcane) as the scroll? Like can a sorcerer cast a scroll of cure light wounds with a DC21 UMD check?