Bard Archetypes - Can you stack Dawnflower Dervish with Sound Striker?

[Joshua Hirtz]

It was brought to my attention today that these two Archetypes might not stack and I was wondering if I might get an official ruling.

My understanding was that they both effect different Bardic Performances with Dervish Dancer changing the way that some Bardic Performances and thusly changing how Bardic Performance works.

This post by James Jacob makes me think that it may be possible as Dawnflower Dervish does not swap out Bardic Performance completely, though at the same time it does change the core of Bardic Performance.

[TGMaxMaxer]

Actually, it seems like they should, as dawnflower Dervish doesn't touch suggestion or inspire competence. Those are the only 2 types of performance sound striker would care about, and the bolded parts seem to support that.

Battle dancing is treated as bardic performance for the purposes of feats, abilities, and effects that affect bardic performance, except that battle dancing does not benefit from the Lingering Performance feat or any other ability that allows a bardic performance to grant bonuses after it has ended. The benefits of battle dancing apply only when the bard is wearing light or no armor. Like bardic performance, battle dancing cannot be maintained at the same time as other performance abilities.

When the Dawnflower dervish uses the inspire courage, inspire greatness, or inspire heroics bardic performance types as battle dances, these performance types only provide benefit to the Dawnflower dervish himself. All other types of bardic performance work normally (affecting the bard and his allies, or the bard’s enemies, as appropriate).

[Kazaan]

Even Battle Dance doesn't alter the function of Inspire Courage, Herism, etc. You can still do those performances as Bardic Performance because it doesn't say anywhere that they are no longer Bardic Performances; just that you may use them as Battle Dances instead and gain all the applicable benefits of Battle Dancing (start with move action, fleet, etc.).

[Michael Sayre]

Dervish Dancer and Sound Striker both replace Suggestion, and are not compatible.

[Hanzou]

Dawnflower Dervish on the other hand does not replace Suggestion.

[Michael Sayre]

Hanzou wrote:

Dawnflower Dervish on the other hand does not replace Suggestion.

Whoops!

Based on JJ's clarification they should work together just fine then. Darn archetypes sounding the same and doing almost the same things....

There are way to many Dervish archetypes.